BORIS RED... What video card?

[r]Evolution wrote on 8/15/2003, 10:44 PM
VEGAS will be even better when BORIS RED comes out for it. Although I do not understand how BORIS RED will run under these conditions. Probably slow as mud. I know it smoked and ran 'realtime' on our old Media 100 system with hardware.

I think the relief will lie in the PAHRLIA card. Or do you guys know of a better card?

Is adding BORIS RED SoFo/Sony's attempt at 3D compositing?

Because honestly... I would much rather use BORIS RED than AfterEffects. Especially if it will do the work from the timeline without rendering.

Bottom line... What is the best card going now?

Lamont

Comments

BillyBoy wrote on 8/15/2003, 11:47 PM
Choice of graphic card should not matter. Borris Red for Vegas is suppose to be a plug-in. If so, probably a small footprint and shouldn't impact performance any more than any other plug-in which should be no effect at all that you could wrap your hand around.
[r]Evolution wrote on 8/16/2003, 8:38 AM
So you do not feel that a card that houses 256Megs of Ram onboard would out perform a card that does not?

I find it hard to believe that none of this would have an impact. Especially on an NLE that is all CPU based.

I currently run Boris Red 2.1 and I know it bogs down my system when I run it. So Boris Red 3 must have a new structure to help it utilize the CPU a little better. Or is it just that a PlugIn uses less juice than a StandAlone?

Lamont
PAW wrote on 8/16/2003, 11:56 AM

Boris uses OpenGL which utlises the speed of the graphicas processor.

I would go with the matox or you could look at the ATI FireGL, 3dLabs Wildcat even.

It will make a big difference with Boris which thinks in 3D

PAW
BillyBoy wrote on 8/16/2003, 12:10 PM
Note my use of the words 'should not matter'. Since I don't have Borris yet or even know if I will get it I don't know what requirements if any it has in the way of a graphics card. Neither does anybody else since the plug-in hasn't been released yet for Vegas.

Subtle but important...

IF you're thinking about getting the Borris plug-in or anything else that does fancy transitions and other enhancements those SHOULD be viewed on an external monitor. Following that suggestion as confirmed by one of the SoFo techs many months back, Vegas bypasses the video card when routing through firewire, which is how your external monitor should be viewed.
c00k wrote on 8/16/2003, 6:22 PM
Yeah like billy said it's quite difficult to predict if you'd need a new card or not based on something that hasn't been released. Even taking into account it's hardcore on graphics, i wouldn't start upgrading until you can start using it.
BTW: any news on when it will be out, you got me interested =)
MDVid wrote on 8/16/2003, 8:37 PM
Boris Red is Open GL optimized, so if you want to 'optimpze' your encoding and rendering speed, an open Gl card would help, (though, not necessary). According to Tim Wilson, Boris Red 3 is actually ready, they are simply waiting for some of their bigger clients, (adobe, apple and avid) to release their latest products, so Boris can support those products. That said, Adobe announced an late August date for Premier pro, and FCP 4, (and 1st patch) all already out. I would expect Boris 3 will be out soon, though they are very quiet on an exact date. If you haven't tried Boris, you will be in for a treat.

JTH
snicholshms wrote on 8/16/2003, 10:08 PM
Just bought Boris 2.5 and looking forward to the free upgrade to 3.0 OpenGL. It comes with a ton (hundreds) of unbelievable pre-set effects. It's going to open a whole new world of creativity... and convenience.
It's going to be nice to create a 3D title or any animation in Boris while still in Vegas. No more working with Ulead Cool Studio (render times even with their patch are still horrendously long) and then resizing into Vegas. It was always awkward to go back & forth as I don't always do all titling at once.
I bought some Boris training tapes and will also attend a two day training seminar on Boris next week. Really excited to learn how to use this poweful software.