Brave new world of 50p

Duncan H wrote on 12/24/2012, 1:13 AM
Having lashed out and got myself a Sony RX 100, I'm now pondering how to use it. Let's say I (by some chance) take some stunning footage in glorious HD50p. Now if I want to show this masterpiece to the world & I want to make a bluray disc, (50i), I'm hoping this is a painless, template driven Vegas exercise that will result in stunning footage. Am I dreaming that this will be a painless & rewarding exercise or do bear traps lurk?

Merry Christmas to all and best wishes to all for 2013.

Duncan

Comments

PeterDuke wrote on 12/24/2012, 6:32 AM
A Blu-ray disc is not one of your options for 1920x1080 50p. (Format not supported by BD spec.). 1920x1080 50i and 1280x720 50p are supported, however.

What resolution do you have or want?

A network media player or computer can be used at home, to play 1920x1080 50p. Then there are the internet options.

There are several bugs in DVDA when making Blu-ray discs. The one that is a killer for me is the skip button not working properly on Panasonic Players. I therefore use Pegasys TMPGEnc Authoring Works instead.
John_Cline wrote on 12/24/2012, 7:30 AM
You can drop a 50p clip on a 50i timeline and Vegas will deal with interlacing it to 50i just fine. There should be no problems.
Duncan H wrote on 12/24/2012, 3:41 PM
Thanks Peter & John. I realize BR is 50i, hence my question. John, that was the answer I was very much hoping for, many thanks & merry Christmas.

Duncan
PeterDuke wrote on 12/24/2012, 6:44 PM
"You can drop a 50p clip on a 50i timeline and Vegas will deal with interlacing it to 50i just fine."

You may at times have vertical jitter of sharp horizontal lines or edges, due to the halving of the vertical resoluton in converting each frame into a field. A small vertical blur before conversion should fix those cases.
Ron Windeyer wrote on 12/25/2012, 8:26 PM
Hey Duncan - welcome to the world of stunning video!

If you can persuade the world to come to you, and get yourself a Sony PS3, you have no problems. Vegas can cook up a mp4 file (1920 x 1080, 50P) that will knock the socks off anything else.

Of course, for wider distribution, the above advice is good. Vegas can easily convert 50P to 50i, and that will go on Bluray.

Cheers
Duncan H wrote on 12/26/2012, 3:33 AM
Thanks Peter & Ron. The kids norm me our PS3 just died a week before Xmas, but never mind, greatly appreciate your help & advice. Thx Duncan
Rory Cooper wrote on 12/28/2012, 1:42 AM
Duncan you should look at getting a media player they are very small and cheap these days and support most digital flavors, mp4, mp2, MKV, m2t etc
They even play AVCHD direct from your flash memory.

Example. Check player profile for formats before you buy
http://www.chinavasion.com/china/wholesale/Home_Audio_Video/HDD_Media_Players/Mini_TV_Media_Player-Media_Player_Box_HD

I save all my stuff full HD or 720p to a portable hard drive. No hassles render done. Don’t hassle with BR cutting BR player disc costs etc.
Grazie wrote on 12/28/2012, 3:34 AM
I save all my stuff full HD or 720p to a portable hard drive.

This "Christmas Day" evening I plugged my iPhone4 into my niece's 40" LG via a neat lil iJobs Octopus cabling thingie. Looks like a set of Cow's udders . . Anyhoo, having done that and having a video of my late father performing with myself and my partner - it's actually quite hysterical to watch, if not a little sad - proved once again to me AND my niece who wanted to wrestle MY iCable from me for her own uses, the adage that it is the cost<>purpose-to-reach of the devices and the media now available to us that is even more dictating just what we do - AT THE POINT OF SCOPING THE PROJECT - that is/has become even more important than before.

And yes Roars . . . Why do BluRay anything any more? Sure, there are reasons (?), but I'm suggesting that those reasons are maybe becoming less and less, as audiences are utilizing a plague-like, burgeoning mix of Media transfer options that I'm half expecting my Fridge to warn me of a Client wanting to watch their latest video I created for them on their Microwave Oven and have it transferred to their DAB radio, while the same device is making their morning cuppa coffee.

We have at last entered "Blade-Runner" World: Where do we choose, and wish to look first.

And guess what? The Advertisers have got there first. It wont be long before your 10 year old MicroWave oven will be saying: "Dave, I know you like me - Dave - but I have been superseded by a later model that today, and for one day only, you could get for 50% less of what it cost you to buy me . . . . Dave"

Grazie

ushere wrote on 12/28/2012, 5:48 AM
grazie, i'm afraid i can't do that....

i'm amazed blu-ray is still worth talking about - i haven't ever been asked for one, and other than government jobs where they need to distrib on dvd, all my clients want are a variety of files, hd mp4 for net/intranet, direct posting to youtube or other service, and quite often small, e mailable files - even though i explain about services such as dropbox, youtube, etc.,

as for everything else, most people i know have either media players of one sort or another, are getting smart tv's, or have their entertainment needs satisfied by foxtel (that i think is an oxymoron).

anyway, youse all have a gud un, and a GREAT new year....
Arthur.S wrote on 12/28/2012, 10:05 AM
" The one that is a killer for me is the skip button not working properly on Panasonic Players."
This isn't just Panny players Peter. I have a Sony and a Toshiba BD players. Both exhibit the same bug. :-(

Incidentally, have you come across any decent tutorials for TAW? Even youtube seems to be a TAW free zone.
PeterDuke wrote on 12/28/2012, 7:47 PM
"have you come across any decent tutorials for TAW?"

Nup. I just fiddle around and see what happens. Some things aren't possible, such as moving your video file or shortening it, without having to redo much of your project again. (You get a generic error message with a Hex code - not good).

I find that the underlying engine in TAW is very good, but the user interface is rather Mickey Mouse.

Tech support is reasonably responsive but not necessarily able to help you if the features are not there in the first place.