[bug] Explorer is breaking parent / child relationship

Foo-Bar wrote on 3/1/2023, 2:54 AM

This bug is in almost al (recent) version of Vegas, like those published from 2010 - 2023.

The explorer does not utilize the appropriate (generic) Windows (file) API system, which results in a buggy and not trustworthy result.

Renaming, moving and other filehandling (from within the embedded explorer pane) can go wrong, it can go good, it's never sure what the result will be.

Another thing is when refreshing the folder (because somehow it does not adopt to filechanges itself, when the content of the active folder is changed outside Vegas).

Sometimes refreshing does traverse the path up, to the connection between parent(folder) <--> child(folder) <--> siblings (files) are distorted.

Not sure why Vegas utilizes it's own explorer "solution" because the W32 API are there for (bug-)free usage.

Anyhow, demo :

On the left a folder (snd-04) with some files (*.mp3)

Right pane is active, click "refresh / F5" to see any changes inside.

Somehow the right pane is not refreshing (which it should do) and the left pane is refreshing (which it shouldn't do) and it's also traversing up to rootlevel (which it's not even allowed to do).

So now you see a folder ("root") with content (*.mp3) which is not there : the files are not in root, they are in another folder.

Pressing F5 / refresh (while the right pane is selected) again, does combine / link / restore the "parent / child" relationship of both folder and files.

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Yelandkeil wrote on 3/1/2023, 6:15 AM

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Foo-Bar wrote on 3/1/2023, 7:44 AM

Thanks for the response.

I am not sure what your movie show, but I encounter the bug since +/- 2010 in Vegas 13 ~ 20 on several machines / configurations.

I can not upload a screen recording here, but please check :

https://i.ibb.co/wWtxh6d/refresh.gif

As you can see, after some tries the parentfolder (on the left) resets totally, while refreshing it's content (on the right).

(I cropped some of the left explorer pane, but that's because of privacy).

Literally the left pane traverses up to the root of that disk, resetting it's own state.

Yelandkeil wrote on 3/1/2023, 10:38 AM

My sympathies for your suffering, such a long period.

My movie just showing VEGAS explorer doesn't torture me, where I've established my media libraries and use them every day.

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*XFX Speedster-MERC319-RX6900XT <-AdrenalinEdition 24.12.1
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LG DSP7 Surround 5.1Soundbar ->TOSLINK

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