Bug in "Layout CD Audio from Events"?

TheHappyFriar wrote on 5/3/2005, 11:30 AM
I've had some time to kill so I've been putting some things on CD. I just drop/drag the audio next to eachother on the T/L. Then I use the "layout CD from events" option. When I go to burnthe disc sometimes I get a "Track X start before the end of Track Y" critical error. Zoom in & you can easily see that the track X start is before the end of track Y. I move it & it's al better.

Anyone else seeing this?

Comments

fultro wrote on 5/3/2005, 12:15 PM
Only thing I can guess is if you are dragging multiple files at once to the timeline you need to go to Pref/Edit and uncheck "auto overlap...."
but this raises a question I have - I have a CD project coming up and it looks like there always has to be silence between tracks for Vegas to maintain separate CD tracks
In fact in Help it says "If multiple events are touching they will be treated as a single track"
So can someone confirm there is no way around this, and that I cannot place a CD track marker on a crossfade
I guess I'll have to reload CD Architect if that is the case
Catwell wrote on 5/3/2005, 2:36 PM
You manually Insert tracks. I just did a CD from a cello recital and the 3rd and 4th movements have no seperation. I bring all the tracks onto the timeline. I use Excalibur Gap Wizard to place a 2 second gap between all the events, slde the fourth movement up to the Third and then use the Layout CD tracks from Events. Of course there is only one track for the 3rd and 4th moverments so I double click the 4th movement which selects the wholen event and then I choose Insert, Audio CD track Region.
fultro wrote on 5/3/2005, 3:16 PM
Excellent idea Catwell - worked also when I crossfaded the audio events and put the cursor at the point in the crossfade where I wanted a CD track

thanks
craftech wrote on 5/3/2005, 4:09 PM
I use Vegas 4 and have done this several times. The 2 second gap thing doesn't work that well on the timeline even if you follow the manual.
What does work well is to import the media into the media pool.
Then right click on it and choose Add as a CD Track. That will put the 2 second gap between each one you add.

John
Erk wrote on 5/3/2005, 4:31 PM
I routinely make CDs with no gaps between tracks, and sometimes put track markers on crossfades, and have never had a problem with burning them in Vegas or having them play in numerous CD players. I do slide these tracks around manually, rather than rely on "lay out CD from events." I also have to zoom way into make sure my track markers are where I want them. But it always words great, and I love making CDs in Vegas.

Greg
craftech wrote on 5/3/2005, 4:44 PM
For Redbook audio compliance there is to be a 2 sec gap between tracks.

John
TheHappyFriar wrote on 5/3/2005, 6:23 PM
Should of mentioned I was using Vegas 6.

Anyway, I'm only dragging one file down at a time. I'll see if I can replicate it & then put a veggie for others to download & see.

I reall don't mind the gap for what I was doing. I was taking an old radio show & putting it on CD, so a small gap between episodes is no bother. :)
Erk wrote on 5/3/2005, 6:47 PM
craftech,

I've always understood the Redbook to require the 2 second gap, but what I don't know is when deviations from this standard matter. For example, does it cause problems with replication houses? certain CD players? How does an album like Sgt. Peppers get affected by this?

Now that I think about it, maybe the gap doesn't have be silence, allowing for live albums and such.
fultro wrote on 5/3/2005, 6:56 PM
2 seconds only required at the beginning - not required as gaps between CD tracks - crossfades are allowable with a track number there
If you add audio to the timeline and go to Tools / Layout Audio CD from Events - you will notice a built in 2 seconds at the beginning - that is all there is to the 2 second requirement you are referrring to
craftech wrote on 5/19/2005, 9:25 AM
For mastering by duplication houses there has to be at least a 2 second gap between tracks to allow for proper indexing. The 2 second gap and the other standards go to ensure broad compatibility. As a matter of fact there have been criticisms within the industry because some manufacturers have tried to curb piracy by producing non Redbook compliant CDs that make it harder to copy, but also don't play on every CD player either.

John