Busses and Panning

Greg_M wrote on 5/27/2005, 9:30 PM

I cannot retain panning when bussing either to a regular bus or an effects bus. For example, if I pan the overheads of my drum tracks (all mono tracks) left and right and bus them to either an effects bus or a regular bus, they come out of the bus dead center. Either I am missing something elementary or this is a serious bug. It is almost like the busses are in mono. BTW, panning works fine on the main tracks.

I'm using Vegas 6b.

Anyone with an idea about what I might be doing wrong.

Thanks,
Greg

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CDM wrote on 5/28/2005, 5:35 AM

Hi Greg -
I'm not seeing what you're seeing when panning a mono track to a regular bus. You're saying that if you pan hard left on a track and send to, say, Bus A, you see it in the center? Are you panning in the Track Header or using an envelope? Can you give me some more project specifics?

as for sending to an effects bus, this is an ongoing drama around here. Pan is post send, so you need to add a Pan plugin to the track and pan that hard left or right as well. But, since this pan plugin doesn't have different pan modes (I think it's hard-set to Add Channels), you'll need to watch the volume, as you'll get a 6dB boost.

does that help?

Greg_M wrote on 5/30/2005, 11:31 AM

CDM,

Here are some details. In this project there are 7 drum tracks. Using the regular track controls, I mixed the drums - set the panning and volume for each of the tracks. I then created Bus A and set the Bus A volume on each of the tracks to match the regular track volume. Then, I set the regular track volume on each of the drume tracks to -Inf. I applied plug-ins to Bus A (PSP Vintage Warmer, BBE Sonic Maximizer, and Reverb) and made sure Bus A output was to Master. This resulted in all drum tracks being mono, effectively panned right up the middle. Acouple of other notes: I only set the individual track volumes to -inf when I realized that both the left and right channels of the bus I/O meter were bouncing together (as in mono up the middle). I also removed all of the plug-ins on the Bus A to make sure they weren't causing this issue.

The behavior is no different using an effects bus. I have tried both the track header and an envelope pans. Again, behavior is the same - no panning response on the Bus.

My computer specs are in my profile (I assume you can see it).

Thanks,
Greg

Ben wrote on 5/30/2005, 12:18 PM

There's a major issue here Greg. To save my breathe, here's some reading for you:

http://www.sonymediasoftware.com/forums/ShowMessage.asp?ForumID=19&MessageID=325079

http://www.sonymediasoftware.com/forums/ShowMessage.asp?ForumID=19&MessageID=382945

http://www.sonymediasoftware.com/forums/ShowMessage.asp?ForumID=19&MessageID=385075

Once you've got through all of that, please come back and make as much noise about this as possible! Many of us here having been shouting about this since Vegas 5 came out.

Ben

Greg_M wrote on 5/30/2005, 3:25 PM

Ben,

Thanks for the links. I guess I'm coming into this issue late in the game. I'm sure you know, one of the major reasons to bus tracks is to reduce the number of plug-ins you need to use and save CPU usage. Having to throw a Pan Trim or other effects on each track is counter-productive.

There seem to be several other bugs still alive which also compromise audio workflow. I guess its back to PTLE until all of this gets straightened out.

Thanks to everyone who contributed.

Greg