Buzzing reverb tail

DouglasClark wrote on 8/2/2004, 11:20 AM
I have WaveHammer and (sony) Reverb as bus effects, and at the end of the track I get a raspy buzz in the tail of the reverb. Disappears of course if I set reverb out to -inf. Dry and early out levels do not affect it, but reverb out, decay time and reverb mode do. (increasing decay makes it worse).

Plugin settings: Medium Hall 2; dry 0dB; reverb out -30dB; early out -12dB; style Mode 5 (20 ms); decay-time 1.5 ms; pre-delay 5 ms. (I've tried lots of other settings, and disabling other plugins, but still have same problem.)

Also have plugins on 6 other tracks. Recently installed Waves Renessance bundle (demo), but only using 1 active waves plug in (deEsser) on another track.

My pc is 2.4GHz P4, 1 GB ram, audio is on raid0 array. I doubt it's pc limitation...never had this before...and it's not a huge number of tracks or effects in the mix. What's up?

Douglas
Denmark

Comments

randygo wrote on 8/2/2004, 11:32 AM

The Sony reverb is pretty poor sounding, I never use it. Almost anything else is better.
DouglasClark wrote on 8/2/2004, 12:36 PM
I've got ozone...but that is too cpu-intensive for a mixing reverb. I'll try the waves RVerb...but I saw a comment that that wasn't the best reverb either.
I've got Steinberg's VST reverb plugins from Cubase SX2...but I haven't tried using a VST wrapper yet. Which wrapper is best? Which reverb would be best for a bus reverb (group of close-miked balalaikas)?

I can't imagine the buzz I'm getting with the sony track reverb is "normal"...they would never have shipped something that bad. Could it be an issue with something else in my mix? I did have Vegas crash twice earlier in the day!
heinz3110 wrote on 8/2/2004, 2:46 PM
I found the sony reverb raspy at certain occasions and certain instruments.It's not the best sounding reverb,but quite usefull if you apply different settings.One rule of thumb with this plugin(for me ,that is):never expect the presets to be uh..faithfull.A Plate preset won't act as a plate on some instruments,so I just experiment with different reverb-types to suit it to that particular track/instrumment.

I must agree,this plug isn't out-of-the-box-satisfaction(like ,say,Wave TrueVerb or what-have-you.).But it can be done to get some usefull sounds with this plugin,but it involves more experimentation with settings to get it good sounding(and to get rid of the raspyness ..)

Gerard
drbam wrote on 8/2/2004, 3:50 PM
I agree with the others that the Sony verb is pretty awful. I never use it for anything. After experimenting with the Waves RVerb, if you still have this problem, start looking elsewhere for the cause. The RVerb can be made quite useful – not great – but its light years better the Sony verb. BTW, If you are wanting nice long tails, you will have to get into a decent hardware unit or do some destructive processing with a convolution (impulse driven) type plugin. In this regard tho, I don't think any native plugin can compare to a good hardware unit. At some point in the tail most plugs start sounding metallic and unnatural.

drbam
DouglasClark wrote on 8/3/2004, 9:08 AM
Thanks for the replies. Yeah, the tail is key in this project, because I am chopping off the tracks at end of tunes when audience begins to applaud...and trying to add a "nice" reverb tail to smooth out the abrupt end of the track (minus audience noise).

I finally figured out to set the bus fader to pre-fx, so the bus volume envelope could be abruptly brought to -inf while allowing the fx to continue for the tail (and to also leave enough room for the tail at the end of the event)!