can i save a vms project in process to disk?

s k r o o t a y p wrote on 2/27/2006, 5:40 PM
can you save a project IN PROCESS from VMS off of your harddrive onto a disk to be brought back on and finished at another time? what i mean is, can you save your timeline layout and media pool, etc. just as it is? not as a movie but as a project. (is this referred to as "backing up to disk"?)

thanks

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rustier wrote on 2/27/2006, 5:53 PM
Sure - you'll need to save the project file - as well as the media you plan to remove and be prepared to "teach" it where the stuff is when you get back to it. It'll say it's offline blah bla blah can you browse to correct or new location? and you say sure and steer it the right way (whether its on disk or hard drive or whatever)
s k r o o t a y p wrote on 3/26/2006, 8:11 PM
i know this is asking for a bit of hand holding but how do i distinguish the "project file"? (he sheepishly asks : )
Spot|DSE wrote on 3/26/2006, 8:26 PM
File>Save As> and check the Copy and Trim Media with Project.
This will save the project and the media to the location you select.
You can even burn the finished file to a DVD as a data DVD, and transfer it back to the computer later (don't attempt to edit from the DVD media).
Chienworks wrote on 3/27/2006, 5:07 AM
The project file is the file you save when you choose File / Save or File Save As from Vegas Studio's menu. It will have an extension of .vf.
s k r o o t a y p wrote on 3/27/2006, 7:23 PM
well, seemed simple enough but i tried to save 2 different VMS projects (with the vf designation) to the DVD drive and both keep giving me this message:

"an error occurred while saving the project file for (project name). the file could not be created."

anyone know what i'm missing?

thanks

Spot|DSE wrote on 3/27/2006, 8:17 PM
You can't save a file to a DVD drive.
you need to:
1. Do File>Save As
2. Tick the "Save Media with project checkbox
3. Point the file and media to a location that is a new folder
4. Wait for it to save. It might take a while, depending on your project complexity and computer speed.
5. Once done, use a data burning utility such as Nero to copy the new folder and media to a DVD. No Sony Media Software tool can help you with this.
6. After you're SURE it's burned on the DVD, you can delete the file from your hard drive.

when it comes time to work that project again, you'll have to transfer all the files back to the hard drive.

If you only want to save the project, just save it to a location on a hard drive. It's VERY small, only a few kilobytes, and it will automatically have the .vf extension, just as Kelly mentioned earlier.
s k r o o t a y p wrote on 3/28/2006, 6:51 AM
~so is the project file so small because it is merely the framwork for how all the media lays out/ fits together and not all the actual media? is that why it's so small?
Chienworks wrote on 3/28/2006, 7:11 AM
Correct. So to make a complete backup of a project you have to save the .vf file and all the media files used in that project.
HaroldC wrote on 3/28/2006, 8:54 AM
Don't forget though, if you save a project file, you can't rename, delete or move any of the media files that the project file refers to.
s k r o o t a y p wrote on 3/28/2006, 11:35 AM
~this has been real helpful. the only downside i'm seeing is each time i think i'm all set to do the basics, turns out i need to buy something else. first a $145.00 A/D converter now an $80.00 burn utility. ugh! but enough of my complaining.

thanks for all of your time!
stevec5375 wrote on 3/28/2006, 1:41 PM
You should already have a burn utility if your computer came with a DVD burner or you bought one from a store. I have never bought a DVD burner that wasn't somehow shipped with software to go with it.
IanG wrote on 3/28/2006, 11:15 PM
>Don't forget though, if you save a project file, you can't rename, delete or move any of the media files that the project file refers to.

VMS is pretty good at handling this - you'll be prompted for the new names and locations.

Even if a burn utility wasn't provided, there are free ones available e.g. CDBurnerXP Pro.

Ian G.
s k r o o t a y p wrote on 4/3/2006, 8:18 PM
<<You should already have a burn utility if your computer came with a DVD burner or you bought one from a store. I have never bought a DVD burner that wasn't somehow shipped with software to go with it.>>

not that i'm aware of, just, like, real player and windows media player. i'll check out the site.
s k r o o t a y p wrote on 4/16/2006, 9:57 PM
ian,
i'm a little sketchy on the cdburnerxp pro site. what version do i want: 3.0.116 or 3.5.101.6? one of those?
not sure exactly what i'm looking at on the site. also is this a trusted program in your experience? there was mention of bugs and such. should i be concerned? also, saw something about working in conjunction with widows media player?

thanks
IanG wrote on 4/17/2006, 3:08 AM
Did you get the pm I sent you?

Ian G.
s k r o o t a y p wrote on 4/21/2006, 7:45 PM
no, i didn't get it. could i trouble you to resend it?

thanks so much.
IanG wrote on 4/22/2006, 2:52 AM
Strange! I've sent it twice, and no bounce messages. I've just sent it again, via this forum, so let's hope it's third time lucky!

Ian G.
s k r o o t a y p wrote on 4/28/2006, 10:18 PM
~still no go. don't know why. perhaps you could just post it here.

thanks
s k r o o t a y p wrote on 5/26/2006, 8:11 PM
~can't pull myself to download something with a known list of bugs and problems:

http://www.cdburnerxp.se/forum/viewtopic.php?p=10291

what would be the point?
IanG wrote on 5/27/2006, 1:05 AM
There's another mail out there, somewhere!

>~can't pull myself to download something with a known list of bugs and problems:

There's no such thing as bug free software, but if it does what you want...

Ian G.
s k r o o t a y p wrote on 5/27/2006, 6:41 PM
~oooooh, you don't know me and bugs! : )

i'm looking at nero 6, lots of people on here have made reference to it and it's cheap. i'm trying out the free trial of 7 at the moment.

thanks ian
s k r o o t a y p wrote on 5/27/2006, 6:46 PM
~just got the e-mail! sounds good.

so not a high opinion of nero?

thanks again.
s k r o o t a y p wrote on 5/27/2006, 8:48 PM
~alright, back to the topic. i've got two project folders (containing the VMS, DVDAS framework and all the media) that i wanted to get off my harddrive and onto a DVD data disc for archives. now the problem:

they are big!

one is a half hour project and is 11 Gig.
the other is a 1and 1/4 hour project and is 22 Gig.

my computer has a double layer drive so i can get 8.5 Gig of storage per double layer disc, but this is obviously not enough? what can i do? for the 22 Gig one i tried taking out the VMS file, the DVDAS file and all the songs to store seperately but it only took the size down to 20 Gig! i don't think i should get into seperating audio and video files should i? 8.5 is the most space you can get from a disc right?

any options you can point out would be appreciated!

s k r o o t a y p wrote on 5/27/2006, 9:38 PM
~found this:

http://supermediastore.com/tdk-blu-ray-disc-blue-ray-dvd-media.html

a 25 Gig disc (double layer yields 50G)! but it is $25 for one! and i think can only be used with Blu-ray Disc systems (BD-R). interesting though.