Can Vegas do this trick?

monoparadox wrote on 9/21/2017, 2:14 PM

You can do this trick with Vegas. With the emphasis on you. However, with the right software Vegas could do this. You would need a motion tracker such as Mocha and would still require a fair amount of work.

-- tom

Former user wrote on 9/21/2017, 3:26 PM

This would be extremely difficult in Vegas. You need a program with serious motion tracking.

RZ wrote on 9/21/2017, 3:57 PM

How does Mocha compare to Fusion for this type of work?

TheHappyFriar wrote on 9/21/2017, 8:27 PM

Pretty sure Blender could do that now with all the video & tracking features it has.

If Vegas had a way to motion track the corner points & deform a track/event to that, Vegas could do it.

That's more of an After Effects thing though. Like those fancy word animations, AE plugins.

karma17 wrote on 9/23/2017, 6:25 AM

No Vegas could not. You need layers, 3D work space, and motion tracking. Most likely After Effects was used for this. I notice if you stop at the 14 second mark, you can see that his fingers holding the frame are blurred, but the rest of him inside the frame is sharp. So you know the image is actually on a layer motion tracked to the picture frame, which probably had tracking markers on it.

deusx wrote on 9/23/2017, 9:40 AM

This is not a job for any editor. You should go with Fusion ( or AfterEffects, or similar ).

Mocha is only a tracker right? So I guess it should be better at that than Fusion, but overall Fusion is probably as good as it gets. I mean, major huge budget films use Fusion. It can do pretty much anything. It's up to you to learn how.

Ralf wrote on 9/24/2017, 11:21 AM

Fusion 9 Studio version has a new planar tracker which, from the examples I've seen, can do this relatively easily.

Former user wrote on 9/25/2017, 12:26 AM

You could do this with vegas, but likely need the mocha plugin, and that's some ridiculous price $600? . It's free as a part of after effects. the original was done in after effects with mocha tracking

GJeffrey wrote on 9/25/2017, 5:31 AM

You can also use Hitfilm express with mocha add on, which is 50usd only.

Jerry K wrote on 9/25/2017, 7:29 AM

I want to thank everyone for your help and suggestions.

When I first viewed the video I said to my self Wow I would love to be able to do that. Now that I see from reading the post here that it's very time consuming and you need to layout some big $$$ on new software I think I will skip the idea unless some one comes up with a cheap and easy way of doing it.

When I have time I may try a modified version of this picture frame trick using Vegas by it self. Here's what I mean by modified. When filming Keeping the picture frame facing the camera at all times. No twisting or turning the frame. Then I can key frame the snapshot into the frame as it moves. I think Vegas should be able to accomplish this task with out too much pain or time.

Jerry K.

TheHappyFriar wrote on 9/25/2017, 7:35 AM

Blender is free, so no $$ there. Looking through some free OFX pluigns I found on the OFX wikipedia page, there might be corner pinning OFX plugins that would work on the event level of Vegas. That would cut down to just motion tracking.

deusx wrote on 9/26/2017, 11:33 AM

Now that I see from reading the post here that it's very time consuming and you need to layout some big $$$ on new software

Fusion is free and although some tracking features are not included in that free version, you can probably still pull it off, so no need for expensive software. Time consuming, probably, but isn't everything worth doing like that?

And I just have to mention it again, I still cannot believe that something like Fusion is free. Following that logic Adobe should pay us to use AfterEffects

fr0sty wrote on 9/26/2017, 6:42 PM

There are a number of plugins for Vegas that can do it. Boris Continuum Complete can do it (via Mocha if I remember right), Mocha itself is available for Vegas, as well as the others mentioned above. That still won't get you completely where you need to be, though. I'm also noticing they are doing things like adding light reflections across the surface of the image to give it a semi-glossy look. So, you'll want a program that treats the photos as if they are 3D objects and applies lighting effects to them where you can specify the direction, intensity, and color of the lighting effect.