can you do this in vegas?

lex wrote on 7/16/2004, 2:30 AM
i was almost finish with this documentary video but wanted to know can you make the transistion where say it's a scene and the scene crumbles lnward making a transistion to the next scene where someone has there hand close up on the scene like he or she crumbled the scene like a piece of paper. did everyone understand what i just wrote. i hope so anyway if someone can help me on this. it would make this video jump off. also has anyone done that effect or knows what kind of effect is called when someone is walking towards the screen then a real quick flash and they are up on the screen like in the ring when the girl came out of the television. i love that effect. i guess i'm asking too many questions. just so hyped about shooting and editing.


Lex
Playbook entertainment

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Grazie wrote on 7/16/2004, 2:42 AM
"Srcunching-up" paper? . . . .the girl outta the Tellie . .er . .don't understand this one . . should do . ..

The paper thing maybe be possible .. with filimng a piece of blue or green paper and Chroma keying . .yes, you wont get the various levels of 3-D going outta wack .. . but its amazing what the human brain will do to "fill-in" the logical gaps .. yeah? . .Anyways this is most likely not relevant as you are asking about stuf in Post . .meaning the filming "could" be over with - yeah? . ..Another argument for planning .. . yeah, I know . .I've been there too .. . I'll do it again as well .. !

Grazie
Grazie wrote on 7/16/2004, 2:45 AM
. .of course you could spend a whole lot of time doing 3-D stuff and keep reducing the scrunching-up till you got what you want .. . There was a folded paper plane VEG effect of a video being "folded" into a paper plane and then fying away .. pretty neat really . .
TheHappyFriar wrote on 7/16/2004, 6:33 AM
You could probley use a 3d program & WAX to get this effect. Or just a 3d program (have fake 3d paper crumbling with that part of the video on it).

That's what i'd do (since you never recorded the paper crumbling.)
farss wrote on 7/16/2004, 7:24 AM
Probably could be done with a lot of work using 3D surfaces and displacement maps. Side light a piece of heavy paper as it's crumpled to get a greyscale image to drive the height map. I think to get it looking really good would be difficuly without high end tools and in my opinion if you can't get it looking 100% you're better off without it.
As to the second part, just a quick fade to white will do it.
kentwolf wrote on 7/16/2004, 11:14 AM
I believe that Red has this ability...but that's not really Vegas.
briggs wrote on 7/16/2004, 11:35 AM
I did this once. The scene was an old-fashioned treasure map that became wrinkled and balled up (except I had it go from balled up to unfolded). But I used a third-party plugin in Photoshop. I think it was something from Alien Skin that would crumple up the picture. I ended up making a series of stills -- each successive one having more "effect" applied to it. Then I placed them closely on the timeline.

With some crossfade and blur and some audio of paper getting crumpled, perhaps the viewer will fill in the rest, as Grazie mentioned.

-Les
lex wrote on 7/16/2004, 2:15 PM
thanks everyone i'm going to try the photoshop way briggs
kentwolf wrote on 7/16/2004, 4:03 PM
Yes. It is a Photoshop plugin from Alien Skin that does that. I have it, but I forgot the name of it.

I guess you could make incremental degrees of crumple, save it as a layer comp, then export the layers to seperate files.

Should work OK, but will take some work.