Can you re-edit with DVD-A?

Steve672 wrote on 3/26/2003, 10:19 PM
I just read an article that Ulead's entry version DVD authoring software, I think it's DVD Factory, is able to import an already written DVD project from a DVD disc and then make changes to it e.g. correcting a spelling mistake, without having access to the original DVD project. i.e. The original project is not necessarily written by DVDA. Would anyone know if the samething is possible with DVDA?

Steve

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jetdv wrote on 3/26/2003, 11:29 PM
At this point, no. DVDA does not support open DVD.
BillyBoy wrote on 3/27/2003, 12:42 AM
There are a lot of things DVD-A can't do other much cheaper applications CAN do. Which is disappointing. Just was checking its extremely limited abilites with slideshows. It adds the file name on each image, unasked. If there is way to remove file names I haven't found it.
SonySDB wrote on 3/27/2003, 6:29 AM
The only way to remove the filename is to delete it individually from each slide:
1. Select a slide in the "Slideshow Properties" list
2. Select the filename text in the main view
3. Edit | Delete
DigVid wrote on 3/27/2003, 6:46 AM
And of course, you can save your project and reopen it in DVDA to fix typos or tweak there.

You know once your DVD-R/+R is made, if it's not right, then it's a coaster anyway.

If you use DVD-RW/+RW then you can always make it easily again.

One other thing, compare all features "apples to apples" and I think you'll find DVDA is easily the winner. But, it does help to READ or at least take a little time with the app...
tlparker wrote on 3/27/2003, 10:44 AM
I don't see how you can defend not supporting open dvd.
BillyBoy wrote on 3/27/2003, 12:01 PM
I don't see how SoFo can defend another obvious mistake... needing to MANUALLY remove file names form a sideshow. That means if you have a slideshow of just a 100 images you need to remove the file name a 100 TIMES! More likely you'll have a slideshow of upwards of 500 images. You're suppose to remove the file name 500 times? Give me a break. The more I use DVD-A, the more obvious it becomes it was NOT very well thought out.

The those that don't get it... a good slideshow is devoid of text. For an application to insert text on its own WITHOUT asking if you want it and making it clumsy and painstaking slow to remove it one picture at a time is anything but professional.
jetdv wrote on 3/27/2003, 12:12 PM
Just out of curiosity... Wouldn't it be better to build a slide show in Vegas and import the VIDEO into DVDA anyway?
SonySDB wrote on 3/27/2003, 12:26 PM
You can disable the automatic adding of the filename to the slide. When in a slideshow, uncheck Options | Auto-insert Slide Text.
BillyBoy wrote on 3/27/2003, 1:28 PM
Sorry, I missed that. But should't it be the other way around? It would seem the default would be NOT to have filenames since the filename rarely would be what you want to show on screen since a typical file name may be something like AFD-435 or someother equally criptic non descriptive name. At least that's what happens when you have tens of thousands of images on your system.
BillyBoy wrote on 3/27/2003, 1:36 PM
Sure its better to import a slideshow made in Vegas and have far more control like transations between images, text that fades in and out, panning, cropping, etc.. Been there, done that many times. Again I guess I'm more critical because Vegas does so much and DVD-A does so little comparatively speaking in its feature set... so far it just leaves experienced Vegas users wanting and wondering.

I'm sorry if some think I'm nitpicking, I'm not really. It just seems odd that a slideshow option is included in DVD-A when you can do so much more in that regard from within Vegas, and since you can't buy DVD-A without also buying Vegas I wonder why its a "feature" that is so limited. I expected at a minimum that DVD-A would make use of Vegas many fine transations. In other words WHY would anyone use DVD-A for a slideshow?

Steve672 wrote on 3/27/2003, 10:01 PM
Any way of convincing SoFo to add open DVD capabilities to DVD-A?

Steve
BPhipps wrote on 3/31/2003, 2:31 PM
I guess it depends on your perspective. I do a lot of digital photography and needed a way to present a DVD slideshow for clients to choose prints from. So I was happy to see the filenames added by default. For other slideshows or montages without filenames, I always used Vegas.
radcamdvd wrote on 3/31/2003, 3:23 PM
Who’s Open DVD? There is NO Open DVD standard. The DVD Forum has NOT issued specifications for such and until they do, every manufacturer’s technique is proprietary.

We do not need another battle between the manufacturers such as the one that has lead to DVD- and DVD+ as competing technologies, do we?
terryleier wrote on 4/3/2003, 10:00 AM
I don't follow the open DVD discussion.

DVD players perform to specific standards driven data streams or content which is put onto a DVD disk to produce menus, navigation and show the content. Bugs aside, any DVD player produces the same interactive response/content delivery for a DVD disk without regard to what application it was produced by.

On the other hand, each DVD authoring package has it's own internal primitives, data structures and capabilities to produce a DVD. Why can't DVDA process a DVD to create the corresponding primitives and data structure that it would use to create the menus/subpictures/PGC's and content on the DVD? That is, bring back the DVDA project from the DVD.

Open DVD? That doesn't deal with the issue of getting the very things back you put together in the DVD authoring package to begin with. I don't follow how open DVD would dictate how and what DVDA would use to store and organize its projects in the DAR files. The program streams are one thing, but the menus/navigation and linking themselves are basically most of the work that you would do in DVDA anyways and that is what you can't get to. I spelled by sister-in-law's name wrong!?>! Now what? I have to reauthor everthing.
clearvu wrote on 4/3/2003, 10:12 AM
Good point! I find part of DVD burning frustrating and know that other software enables one to correct such a problem without rerendering everything.
clearvu wrote on 4/3/2003, 10:13 AM
Good point! I find that part of DVD burning frustrating and know that other software enables one to correct such a problem without rerendering everything.
Udi wrote on 4/3/2003, 1:50 PM
In my view the DVD standard is too complex. For example, the menu text is kept as image/video and not text - so a program that need to change the text will have to do OCR to re-read the text - or (as some other products do) store the information is a separate file on the DVD.

The products that I tested, and support the re-edit on the DVD have many limitation on the re-edit capabilities - like not able to add slide-show or unable to delete menus etc.

Re-editing on the dvd is very complex becouse some chnages will force you to add space for commands or delete cells etc.

Another option is to "reap" the dvd back into disk and re-edit there - some software like fobedit and ifoedit enable you to do this. dvda can also implement a "reaping" approach. This might be a problem from legal reason as you will be able to re-edit commercial dvds and replicate them.

I find the best way od to pre-render all video/audio in VV4. Keep the dar file and than the time for re-creating the dvd is short and I have full control on the process.