Canon T2i MOV files: 32 vs 64

dlion wrote on 4/29/2010, 10:11 AM
I shot some movie footage with my new Canon T2i: 1280x720/60 and 1920x1080/24. btw: I forgot the settings on these two clips, so I opened them in Zoom Browser that came with the camera, and it gave me everything I needed to know about the two mov clips.

Anyway, I have two computers, both with 4GB RAM: Core2Quad Dell tower and i3 Sony Vaio laptop. The Dell is running Win7/32 and Vegas 32; the Vaio Win7/64, Vegas 64.

On the laptop, these two clips open fine and playback fine, no further help needed.

On the Dell, playback stutters. Can only do basic edits of this stuff in its native form on the Dell. So I transcoded to MXF and Cineform (video only, audio is OK, and yes, I know I need to go double-system for any mission-critical gigs, I'll use my H4).

The results are interesting and my own observations, nothing empirical. Both CF and MXF playback fine on the Dell, now normal editing is possible.

On closer examination, I find that there's a difference in the sharpness in both compared to the original, and the colors look minutely off. So I add a Sharpness FX set to 0. Now the CF looks better than the original, but the colors are still off a tad. So I add Levels, Studio to Computer RGB, and now the CF image looks stunning!

I repeat the Sharpness/Levels combo on the MXF clip - much better, but CF still wins. Just to be thorough, I slap the combo on the orig - also much improved looks-wise, but I still couldn't edit it on the Dell.

I don't draw broader conclusions from this: V64/WIN7/64 handles HD better on my i3 than 32/32 does on my Core2Quad - in my setting.

Looks like I'll be doing much of my HD editing on the laptop...

Comments

FrigidNDEditing wrote on 4/29/2010, 10:24 AM
I would just get the EPIC1 tool from DVFilm - it's only 45 bux and makes working with these DSLR MOV files a breeze.

Dave
24Peter wrote on 4/29/2010, 7:22 PM
Thanks for your insights. Is Studio to Computer RGB available in Pro 8c? If so, where?
dlion wrote on 4/29/2010, 9:18 PM
yes. in video fx.
24Peter wrote on 4/30/2010, 7:22 AM
Yeah, but where in video FX? Is it Broadcast Colors?
rs170a wrote on 4/30/2010, 7:32 AM
It's a preset in the Secondary Color Corrector FX.

Mike
bill-kranz wrote on 4/30/2010, 9:22 AM
Hello All:

I would like to get the Epic I for my .mov video files that are from a new Canon Powershot S20 IS.

However on the DV Film website they are calling those files a H.264/
video format. I think this is the same as MPEG-4...

So is the .MOV extension the same as H.264 in this context?
On my Powershot manual information it said nothing about H.264 as a file extension.
I read over the Wiki entry on Quicktime and it seems like .MOV is a generic term as opposed to H.264 which is a more recent way to classify a video output format.

My real question is can EPIC I support the S20 .mov files?

Thanks,
Bill
mvb wrote on 4/30/2010, 1:45 PM
The PowerShot SX20 IS, as far as I can tell, uses H.264. Read the specifications on the canon website.
You said S20 but did you mean SX20?

Epic works with a variety of quicktime formats including H.264, Mpeg2, uncompressed, but not guaranteed to work with all cameras.

Suggest you try it with the free demo version of Epic.

If you have problems contact DVFilm support. They are very interested in all kinds of feedback
on Epic, and if you have a particular camera that does not work with epic, they can get support for it on the next release.

bill-kranz wrote on 4/30/2010, 3:29 PM
mvb:

Hi. Yes you are right it is H.264 for the SX 20.
I got a little confused by the filename extension of .MOV upon
import into Vegas Pro.
This will help me find the right software to transcode this format.

Riverpast has a "Video Cleaner" that seems to have potential. The cost(s) are
not so bad.
Here is that link:

http://www.riverpast.com/en/prod/videocleaner/purchase/

Thanks,
Bill
CClub wrote on 4/30/2010, 4:12 PM
The Riverpast Video Cleaner looks interesting. My main question would be... if you just have one video/one audio track in Vegas, what would be the difference if you just did this render in Vegas?

Edit: wow... I retract my initial intrigue. I just clicked around their site... you have to buy a http://www.riverpast.com/en/prod/videocleaner/features/booster pack[/link] for almost all of the codecs besides the defaults of wmv, etc. That's a bit ridiculous.