Scenealyzer rocks!! It's my ONLY capture app.

Hello jetdv, do you mean that if I use a wireless mic on the second channel, and ofcourse my on camera mic on my first channel, Vegas will ONLY capture channel 1?

Thanks,

Alex

Yes. That is exactly what I mean. When I record my on-camera mic to stereo 1 (channels 1 & 2) and my wireless to stereo 2 (channels 3 & 4), then I HAVE to use scenalyzer to get the extra audio.

A GREAT feature of Scenalyzer is the ability to capture Video + Stereo 1 into an AVI file while SIMULTANEOUSLY capturing Stereo 2 into a separate WAV file.

Just out of curiosity, what camera are you using that you can record TWO stereo channels?

I use a VX2000+BeachTek. Connecting wireless to one input and outboard mic to the second, I get wireless on one channel and the mic on the other. Vegas has no problem capturing both channels in this scenario.

Tom

I use scenalyzer for scene detection, and vegas for batch capture.

But, I miss a batch capture with scene detection, is there in Vegas? I mean if I want to capture some fragments in a tape, but this fragment have some scenes within, is it possible to batch capture this fragments and automatically have the scenes in it captured separately? I've not seen this on vegas.

Josaver.

Keep in mind with Scenalyzer, you're stuck with the MS DV codec.

Sonic Foundry Video Capture lets you choose between MS DV and the superior Sonic Foundry DV codec.

Also, SoFo Vidcap WILL do batch capture with scene breaks. Check "use DV scene detection" in the options/preferences dialog.

Canon XL-1. It allows 4 separate channels to be recorded at one time. The onboard mic is automatically on Stereo 1 (channels 1 and 2). I can either bypass the onboard mic and record external mics on stereo 1 OR I can leave stereo 1 alone and record external mics on stereo 2 with completely separate controls for volume and line type (i.e. line vs mic vs mic att 20).

For CAPTURE - NO codec is used. It just gets placed in an MSDV wrapper.

For EDITING in Vegas - the SOFO codec will be used.

So, the final PTT will be using SOFO's codec.

I use the PD-150 & DSR-250

Does the above discussion, i.e. inputting two sources to the on-camera stereo channels, change the bitrate from 44.1 Khz to 22 Khz audio? I have a Panasonic DVX100 which has two XLR inputs. I just spent about 20 hours separately capturing, and synching, the track from a boom mike, which I recorded to minidisk thinking that passing the signal through the camera would result in 22 Khz audio.

With the Canon XL-1, it changes from 48k 16 bit to 32k 12 bit. (Standard 2 channel DV is 48k, NOT 44.1k)

not so fast.....there is no codec used in capturing.
Scenalyzer meets the same visual quality as V4

Think that's what I said. :-)

No codec used because it's just a data dump. Scenalyzer does time of day and optical scene detection (or so I hear)

Vidcap just does time of day-which has been enough for me.

If scenalyzer could import and work with a plain tab-delimited log I'd switch in a second. Can it?

Rob Mack

If scenalyzer could import and work with a plain tab-delimited log I'd switch in a second. Can it?

Not that I am aware of and I probably would too.

ScenalyzerLive can do really nice batch capturing, in a very cool mode. You first create something called a "Tape Index," where SClive captures your tape in fast-play mode (10x normal speed). It splits out individual clips based on scene changes or timecode changes. You can then click on the ones you want to capture for real, and SClive will go back and do a formal capture of just those clips. Very cool.

The real reason I use this program, however, is that it can automatically name clips based on the embedded timecode. A clip shot of me writing this might be named, for example, "tape 2 '20030521 213117.avi", which is the current time and date. Terrific for ordering and keeping track.

There is a bug that I just discovered. On a 90-minute capture, I found that SClive would build an audio file that is 6 frames longer than the video track. In other words, a 15-minute capture would have the audio track extending one frame beyond the video track when placed on the Vegas timeline. I reported it to the author of the program, and he replied that he would get on it right away. Very responsive.

Meanwhile, I am forced to manually shrink the audio track by 6 frames and re-render to a new avi file. Not a big hassle, since there are very few times that I have a 90-minute clip. A one-frame delay on a 15-minute clip is no big deal, and even this is a temporary issue.

You first create something called a "Tape Index,"

Yes, I know about the "Tape Index" method. HOWEVER, I want to be able to manually specify the start and stop points. For example, 00:00:03:00 to 00:35:22:00 may be a wedding ceremony - one single clip - no problem for tape index. 00:35:22:00 to 00:50:37:00 may be "post ceremony activities". In this case, I want ONE clip for that entire time even if it consists of 100 different starts and stops. I can't manually enter that. Likewise 00:50:37:00 to 01:21:12:00 may be "reception stuff". Once again, I want to capture this as ONE FILE even if it is 30 different segments instead of 30 separate clips. The tape index is close. What I want to do is manually place entries FOR the tape index capture function to use.