Capturing with the ATI AIW Board

MHampton wrote on 9/25/2001, 8:32 AM
I picked up an ATI AIW Pro AGP board the other day and have loaded the latest drivers to use for archiving my VHS tapes since apparently I can't just "pass-through" my cannon miniDV camera. :( The problem is that in the VF capture utility, it appears that you can only capture with this board using the compeletly uncompressed codec. This gives me less than 30 mins at 740x480 on my 40gig hard drive!

Does anyone know of a way to use the other codecs with this capture board and VF? I tried capturing with the ATI utility, but then I'm restricted to MPEG or the uncompressed. The MPEG doesn't lend itself to editing in VF very well or I'd use it.

Anyone?

Thanks
Michael

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jtoops wrote on 9/25/2001, 10:44 AM
As far as I know, Video Factory doesn't allow
other codecs. However, here are some capture
programs that capture AVI format.

http://www.nct.ch/multimedia/avi_io (supports
segmented AVI capture $25)

http://www.virtualdub.org (supports segmented AVI
capture $free)

http://www.math.berkeley.edu/%7Ebenrg/huffyuv.html
(YUV encoder $free)

http://www.jpg.com/video/mjpeg.htm (mjpeg encoder
$18 now - normally $99)

Also, the above capture programs do NOT support
Direct Show capture (which are the only supported
drivers from ATI (latest drivers)).

I have an ATI All-In-Wonder 128. I could not
render with DirectX 8 and "Video capture Update
for DirectX 8" from Microsoft's webpage without
causing a stack error in Kernel.dll. (Even without
installing my video drivers and both in 98SE and ME).

I ended up re-installing Win98SE with Web TV (to
get the VideoForWindows/DirectShow wrapper) and
installing DirectX and "Digital Video Update" from
VideoFactory's CD. Then installing the latest
drivers from ATI.

So far everything seems OK - I'm still testing this
combination. VideoFactory and AviIO (with the
MJPEG codec) both capture,but I still haven't gotten
VideoFactory to capture into segmented AVI (in still
stops and 4 gigs and quits).
capture segmented AVI.

I hope this helps.

John Toops

And I would recommend a fresh install of OS if you go
this route.

One other issue, using the described method above,
VideoFactory seems to capture with an echo (or
a delay) on the sound channel. Sometimes I can
fix the problem by making sound adjustsments,
sometimes not.

*** Well, the above sequence doesn't seem to work.
After a while capturing, AVI_IO locks Win98SE to
the point where I have to physically pull the
electrical plug. Back to old drivers.
MHampton wrote on 9/25/2001, 8:34 PM
Thanks for the info about the codecs and other capture programs.

As for a clean re-install, just did that. ;)

I also noticed the same audio echo thing as well. Still tweaking. Probably just keep using the ATI TV program for capturing.

Thanks
Michael
routerguy99 wrote on 9/27/2001, 10:36 AM
I had the same problem I ended up buying a Hercules Fortissmo 2 sound card and traded in my sound blastered card. then I hade to configure the sound card for sound line in and turn the vol down on the wave.
Jdodge wrote on 9/27/2001, 2:43 PM
Hi Everyone,

It's been our experience in Tech Support that the ATI All In Wonder card does not meet the necessary system requirements for it to work completely with the VideoCapture utility in VideoFactory. It is not an Open Host Controller Interface (OHCI) compliant card. Therefore, it will be in your best interest to continue to use the vidcap utility that came with the card to do your capturing and printing to tape via that card. VideoFactory will work as your non-linear video editor with the footage you have captured onto your drives from that card though.

Anyone have anything further to add to this chain?
jtoops wrote on 9/27/2001, 4:10 PM
Give me a break. ATI - All In Wonder is
not OHCI-compliant. Of course it isn't.
It is not a DV capture card.

OHCI-compliant IEEE-1394/DV capture card (for DV capture and print-to-tape tools only)

John
Jdodge wrote on 10/1/2001, 4:04 PM
"OHCI, or “Open Host Controller Interface” uses the IEEE-1394 spec. However, it also uses more than just the basic specs that the majority of the video cards use. OHCI allows for hard drives, CDR’s, scanners, audio and video devices, digital still cameras, mixers, and so much more to be controlled. Think of it as USB on serious steroids. (400 mbps and faster!)---The primary advantage of OHCI cards over a proprietary card is cost, accessibility, and the ability to control a host of other hardware devices."--Quote from Douglas Spotted Eagle.

http://www.wwug.com/articles/spotted-eagle_douglas/1394_ohci_dv/


jtoops, I was only trying to deceminate information for all users who may read this post in my reply to the chain previously. No offense was intended.