Cartoon animation rendering?

Jake the Snake wrote on 3/5/2012, 4:15 PM
Hey guys.

I've been putting together a cartoon project containing rendered Toon Boom Animate2 .mov's exported with the following settings:
project: resolution:hdtv 1920x1080, fps:24, aspect ratio:1.78
render settings: compression:Animation, frame rate:current, key frames:all, depth:millsions of colors+, quality:best.

They all play fine with windows and in the vegas preview window during editing, but I cant figure out what render settings to use. It keeps coming out blurry.

I've been using the following settings:
check-match project settings
video for windows(*.avi)
=HD 1080-60i yuv
and I've experimented with frame rate, video format and interleaves but I've yet to produce a good render.

What settings should I be trying?
This render is not intended for the internet, but I will be trying to put it online at some point so if anyone has any pointers for that I would appreciate it.

Thanks

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Former user wrote on 3/5/2012, 4:17 PM
Are you watching this in Quick Time? If so, make sure you have the quality settings correct or it will look soft.

Dave T2
amendegw wrote on 3/5/2012, 4:26 PM
"This render is not intended for the internet, but I will be trying to put it online at some point so if anyone has any pointers for that I would appreciate it.Want the easiest way?

First, use the "Match Media Settings" wizard to set your project properties.



Then go to File->Upload to YouTube.


We could spend a lot of time discussing this, but it sounds like you just want to get a good quality version to the Internet. The above procedure should do this.

...Jerry

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Jake the Snake wrote on 3/5/2012, 4:37 PM
No, I'm watching it with windows media player (which plays my video camera filmed rendered movies fine... but this is a cartoon not sure what the difference is??)

Thanks for the youtube info, when I am ready for that I will refer to your video. thanks.



amendegw wrote on 3/5/2012, 4:51 PM
Ahhh... Windows Media Player.

First, follow the "Match Media Settings" tut above.

Next, you'll need to create a custom template.

Render as -> Windows Media Video V11 (*.wmv)
Next, select the "6.4 Mbps HD 1080-24p Video", and customize it by clicking on
"Customize Template"

Should look like this:



Give this a name you will remember and click the "Save" icon.

Then render.

...Jerry

PS: I'm assuming your animation software creates footage at 23.976 fps, if it's something different than that, you'll need to modify the above settings.

PPS: You could also do this by rendering to MainConcept or Sony h264 encoders, but I don't think we want to get into a "levels expansion" discussion here [chuckles for those who can relate to this]

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System:           Windows 11 Pro
Processor:        13th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-13980HX, 2200 Mhz, 24 Core(s), 32 Logical Processor(s)

Installed Memory: 64.0 GB
Display Adapter:  NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 Laptop GPU (16GB), Nvidia Studio Driver 566.14 Nov 2024
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Display:          1920x1200 240 hertz
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rs170a wrote on 3/5/2012, 6:17 PM
PS: I'm assuming your animation software creates footage at 23.976 fps, if it's something different than that, you'll need to modify the above settings.

I work with animation students who give me 2D work done in Toon Boom and it is 24 fps (not 23.976) so that template will have to modified accordingly.
I make a DVD from their work and, after much experimenting, ended up dropping the files on a 29.97 timeline and rendered to MPEG-2.
There was some blur between frames but the instructor was OK with it.
BTW, check the animation files to DVD thread for a few ideas.

Mike
amendegw wrote on 3/5/2012, 6:37 PM
Good upgrade, Mike - as you can probably tell, I'm not familiar with this software.

Jake, don't forget you don't need to select one of the dropdown values. You can type in the 24.000 fps.



...Jerry

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System:           Windows 11 Pro
Processor:        13th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-13980HX, 2200 Mhz, 24 Core(s), 32 Logical Processor(s)

Installed Memory: 64.0 GB
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Display:          1920x1200 240 hertz
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Jake the Snake wrote on 3/5/2012, 7:24 PM
Success! Thank you guys.

I followed the video and your instructions, and everything rendered beautifully.

Thanks a lot guys, great forum
Steve Mann wrote on 3/5/2012, 11:03 PM
Can we see it?
Jake the Snake wrote on 3/6/2012, 4:32 PM
sure... some might find it offensive though, its for my comedy band, the cartoon series is about a retarded dolphin who basically just humps a bunch of sea creatures lol. We do lots of perverted, offensive songs and skits so it's not for everybody. But when I upload it I'll be sure to post it here.

Thanks