I admit the new crop of 'faster than the speed of light' burners are, in ways, better than the older "real time" burners but old habits die hard so when I master something I would rather wait the "real time." But having said that - the overall problem is not really the speed (Although picking 1x or 2x and having VV decide on it's own that 4x is what you really meant is a bit cocky of the software) - it is the fact that after a burn all I get in one track that is unplayable on even windows Xp when I should be getting 11 tracks, playable on "anything". And the weird(er) thing is that opening up a project done succesfully in 4b, with as many tracks, and having the end result be the same - only one track - *but* now playable on 'everything".

Clearly something is screwed in your system, and not in mine and most other peoples'. Now we just need to sort out what it is ! In the past I've cleared (unrelated) CD-R oddities by uninstalling the drive(r) , then re-installing.


geoff

>>> Clearly something is screwed in your system...<<<

Yeah - this is the typical answer I see a lot - if someone has a problem it *must* be their system, couldn't possibly be VV. Well, as I say - the issue was a non-issue until now so as nothing has changed system wise i would still think it is in VV somewhere.

burn speed related - I just burned a VCD and chose "4x" speed but it went ahead, with less info than burning an audio cd, and burned a 65 minute video in 4 minutes - that is not 4x speed. So why bother even having a user interface when VV is going to do whatever it wants in reguards to burn spped?

So myself , and others, are imagining things when we see Vegas burning things at expected speeds on our systems > Or is Veags fundamentally broken, but ou=r systems are working at 200% of their capabilities, which compensates ?


Obviously you have a problem. It may be Vegas in interaction with you particular system, or it may just be your system. As Vegas works well , and doesn't show these symptom on my two systems, and many other peoples', it does tend to point toward vegas at least not being fundamentally flawed.

If you think my comments are some sort of blind defense of Vegas, I sorry, but your implicit assertion that nothing could be screwed in your system comes across to me as irrational and petulant.

Now let's try and track down what 8is8 causing your problem. Try my suggestion of uninstalling your CD-R, removing, then reinstalling. Preferably with a reboot between each stage. That should count out your Windows CD-R subsytem, unless the drive itself is faulty.


geoff

>>>As Vegas works well , and doesn't show these symptom on my two systems, and many other peoples', it does tend to point toward vegas at least not being fundamentally flawed.<<<

Well FWIW you are the only person who has attempted a reply here. I don't pretend to speak for "many other peoples" systems, so maybe you shouldn't either. I stand by my comment that something changed between 4b and this new version. If anything 'changed' system related it would because VV changed it.

Nero burns tracks on an audio cd fine by the way so the burner is fine. Ironicly VCDs burned with Nero 6.0.0.11 glitch non-stop but burned with VV they play perfect. So it seems to be a trade off - burn audio with Nero and burn video with VV.

Thanks anyway.

What model/brand is your burner? How old is it? Have you gone to the manufacturers website and downloaded the latest firmware? Have you enabled DMA on that drive? It sounds like you're having a couple issues with that drive, with 2 seperate apps. That would tend to point to the burner as the problem. Update the firmware, and make sure DMA is enabled. If you still have problems, then let us know and we can take it from there.

I don't suspect Vegas at this point as your problem. I had similar problems in the past with a burner. I would get higher error rates in some apps compared to another, and it was also greatly effected by the burn rates I was using. Basically the faster the worst off I was. I updated the firmware on my drive, I used other apps to burn and found better results. I was determined there was a problem with Sonic Foundry's CD architect. Well, I was wrong. There was a firmware update for my SCSI card which my burner was connect too, which had a conflict problem with my particular Yamaha burner.

So don't be so quick to blame the problem at Vegas quite yet, until you've explored other avenues also. Maybe the only thing that has changed is Vegas on your system. So, to me that means that maybe there might have been a problem in the past that was on the edge. A few changes in Vegas gave it just that nudge for it to fully rear it's head.

>>>What model/brand is your burner?<<<
Samsung

>>> How old is it?<<<

manufactured February 2003. (That would make it 6 or 7 months old)

>>>Have you gone to the manufacturers website and downloaded the latest firmware?<<<

Yes. Have the newest firmware.

>>>Have you enabled DMA on that drive?<<<

Yes.

>>>It sounds like you're having a couple issues with that drive, with 2 seperate apps.<<<

No I am having an issue with the app, not the burner. And saddly I "upgraded" to Nero 6 which is still very buggy in some areas. And that is not just me but many people have noticed that. (And before you say get the newest version, I am using 6.0.0.11)

>>>I would get higher error rates in some apps compared to another, and it was also greatly effected by the burn rates I was using. Basically the faster the worst off I was.<<<

Thank you! This is what I am saying - and VV does not allow you to really choose even though they show you the drop down of 'available' burn rates. Overall there hasn't been much of an issue with higher burns rates but as I have said over and over - in the past it was told, and preached, that for mastering the lower the burn speed (I.E - 1x) the better. But again, as I have also said, this was pre-'burn proof' and such.

No, it was never necessarily true. Yes, is was (and still is) preached by some. Sort of like an urban legend.

geoff

Just to add my own experience:
I also wonder why Vegas burns at 4x speed when I chose 2x from the DAO dialog (Burner: Plextor PX W40-12A)
On the other hand it is surely true that burning *slowest* is not necessarily *best*.

axel

The next thing I would try is checking to see if there is a bias update and firmware update for your motherboard. There could be a problem with the IDE controler similar to what I had with my SCSI controler.

Has it ever worked correctly in Vegas? If so, has anything changed on your system since it worked?

Did the problem start after installing the new version of Nero? I installed a version of Nero, one of the early 5.x versions and it trashed cd burning in several burning apps that I had installed.

Steve

inspector might have hit the nail on the head,

filmy,
you might have run into the old .dll hell problem.

Between the time you were able to burn CDs OK and had a problem did you install anything apart from the VV upgrade?