CD/DVD Authoring & Duplication

skintback wrote on 7/7/2008, 8:59 AM
Hey guys, hope i'm in the right spot to ask this.......
I am having trouble with media once again....I have switched to sony media dvd-r , formating to main-concept mpg2 , and ac 3 audio, bitraite calculated and most of my issues went away. (the issues being skipping) now what i dont understand is i have 3 different dvd players in my home and finished product will not skip on any of them.I send copys out to customers and i almost always have someone call and say "my skips" now I am using paper stick on labels (do I need to stop?) and the burner that came with my computer . To date i have prob. burned (just a estimate) 350 copy's.
Do I need to invest in a stand alone duplicator with lightscribe OR inkjet. If so suggestions on brands would be nice. Not all copy's skip just a few I send out. It's really embarrassing when I'm charging for these
Thanks in advance for your help
mike

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TheHappyFriar wrote on 7/7/2008, 9:15 AM
ditch the paper labels & use an inkjet/lightscribe burner (inkjet gives more options).

but there's always someone who has issues. many times expensive players have issues. Nearly all old (6+) ones do to.
skintback wrote on 7/7/2008, 9:37 AM
Any pitucular brand of burner/ inkjet printer you recommend?
I notice you have dpu 180A sony listed on you profile. Don't want to go broke but want something decent
Thanks
AlanC wrote on 7/7/2008, 12:37 PM
I can recommend the http://www.canon.co.uk/for_home/product_finder/printers/inkjet/pixma_ip4500/index.aspCanon iP4500[/link]. £74.00 British pounds.

Worth every penny.
riredale wrote on 7/7/2008, 5:42 PM
I used paper labels for years without issues, though I was very careful in the application (centered with a Stomper tool, applied with a rolling pin to guarantee adhesion without bubbles, etc.). Now that one can get beautiful glossy white CD/DVD blanks (the "Watershield" style from Taiyo Yuden) there is absolutely no reason to use labels any more. I use a Canon IP3000 inkjet printer, which uses 4 inks (CMYK) and it works beautifully on the disks.
DGates wrote on 7/8/2008, 3:20 AM
Stay away from labels.

Stay away from high bitrates (stay under 8000).

Stay away from higher burn speeds. 4x is plenty.

Good quality DVD-R's are much more compatible than just a few years ago. But they will NEVER be 100%. Do what you can to limit the possible coasters.

And while they probably have no effect on playability, stay away from Lightscribe. Do you really want to wait at least 15 minutes for EACH disc?



craftech wrote on 7/8/2008, 4:42 AM
I can recommend the Canon iP4500. £74.00 British pounds.

Worth every penny.
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Don't forget, that if he lives in the US where monopolies are encouraged and protected he will have to modify the printer's firmware so it thinks it lives in Radio Free Europe, buy a CD Tray from eBay, and download CD-Label Print from Canon-Europe.

John
AlanC wrote on 7/8/2008, 5:28 AM
I thought that restriction had been lifted now in the U S of A.

Worth the hassle though. It's Quiet, it's Quick and it's great Quality. I bought mine in February and since then have produced approximately 40 discs plus inserts for the DVD cases, and about 30 full colour photo's, some at A4 size and still using the same cartridges that came with it.

Obviously I'm an amateur but after using Epson printers for too many years, since switching to my Canon I haven't looked back.

Alan
Dach wrote on 7/8/2008, 8:52 AM
As previously mentioned stay away from paper labels and generic disc brands. I personally use the Tayio Yuden brand and am very pleased with their performance.

While I respect the Canon brand, I personally use Epson printers. They do a descent job.

I also provide my clients a small business card that explains to them that their video has been distributed on a DVD-R disc and an explanation the reasons why the disc may not play on ever player they encounter. Its very frustrating when a client returns a disc saying it doesn't work, then pop it into our Samsung DVD player and watch it come up.

Chad
johnmeyer wrote on 7/8/2008, 9:04 AM
Don't forget, that if he lives in the US where monopolies are encouraged and protected he will have to modify the printer's firmware Well, it sounds you are referring to patents, which is what covers the Epson CD/DVD tray. The patent arrangement is a system that sure has flaws, but I don't know of any other (in countries outside the US) that gives companies the incentive to do millions or billions in R&D spending without the fear of being ripped off within a few months or years by other companies simply copying the invention.

As for other countries being better, that is seldom true and certainly not in this case. In the European Union, for instance, most digital SD digital camcorders had the "pass-through" disabled in order to satisfy the trade union lobby. Here in the U.S., we had not such restriction. Yay for us! Thus, these anti-consumer things happen in many other countries, just for different reasons.
AlanC wrote on 7/8/2008, 10:38 AM
In the European Union, for instance, most digital SD digital camcorders had the "pass-through" disabled in order to satisfy the trade union lobby.

That also applied to most analoge camcorders as well, although I'm not sure if it was called 'pass-through' in those days.

With some such camcorders, the sockets were there, you just had to remove blanking plates to get to them.
craftech wrote on 7/8/2008, 11:48 AM
In the European Union, for instance, most digital SD digital camcorders had the "pass-through" disabled in order to satisfy the trade union lobby.

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The EU requires DV camcorders to be sold with 'DV in' disabled unless they are also classed and pay additional tax as 'videoplayers'.

Please provide a link to back up your claim that this has to do with "the trade union lobby" and not taxes.

John
johnmeyer wrote on 7/8/2008, 12:42 PM
lease provide a link to back up your claim that this has to do with "the trade union lobby" and not taxes.Yeah, that was pretty sloppy of me.

Here is a link, posted in a forum, but apparently by Bob Crabtree, editor of Computer Video magazine, that I think has the story correct. The DV-In and Pass Through restrictions were the result of action by the European Union, as you say, but in response to pressure from corporate lobbies. So, it was a trade lobby, and in my muddled mind, I was thinking about the EU and put the two together ("trade lobby" + "European Union" = "trade union lobby"). My bad.

Why is the DV input disabled on most digital camcorders sold in Europe?