Changing Audio over time

jasongreen wrote on 12/23/2003, 2:49 PM
I used to use Adobe Premiere, but have since switched over to Vegas. There was an option in Premiere to bring up the Audio mixer for the specified audio tracks on the timeline. Each audio track had a record button. While the movie was playing, I could bring the audio levels up and down for each track. Once the movie stopped (or I stopped it), the Audio "band" (red horizontal line in the audio spectrum) would reflect what I had done with the mixer. Is there an option like this in Vegas? I'd like to do my audio mixing on the fly and not have to put in specified points on the audio "band" and manually raise the red line up or down.

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jasongreen wrote on 12/23/2003, 5:23 PM
no one knows? How does everyone else change the volume levels?
MJhig wrote on 12/23/2003, 6:22 PM
Either use a compressor to even out the dynamics or insert a Volume Envelope and set nodes. It's probably faster to use the Volume Envelopes since you can do a search for it in the manual with straight forward directions but a compressor would be less manual work if the change in dynamics are within a reasonable range and there is not a lot of varying background noise but you would need to learn something about compression as there are no real rules since much depends on the source material.

I would hate to have to ride the fader

MJ
jasongreen wrote on 12/23/2003, 9:46 PM
It's really simple with the fader. You just increase the volume when and where you want it and it automatically writes it. With Vegas it seems I have to put in every single point where I want the audio to go up or down in volume. This is frustrating. I can't believe that this isn't an option in Vegas.
farss wrote on 12/24/2003, 2:40 AM
Jason,
I've used that option in Premiere, one of the dumbest ideas I've ever come accross. It might SEEM convenient but it creates a node every time you move the slider the slightest amount. Each one of those nodes has to be stored in the project file so you can rapidly end up with a huge project. Using the envelopes in either Premier or VV is in the end more economic and quicker.
Normally all you want to do is have a track go from one level to another over a certain amount of time. With envelopes all you need is a node at each end of the fade and drag down to the desired level, dead simple. Try doing that with the mixer and you have nodes everywhere so when you want to change just one point you first need to go through and delete dozens of nodes to get a smooth transition. Also call me anal but I always try to set levels in exact 3dB increments, if possible I try to stick to 6 dB increments.
pwppch wrote on 12/24/2003, 1:03 PM
What I believe you are asking for is recording of automation. Vegas 4 does not do this. It is something we are looking to do in a future version.

Peter
Rednroll wrote on 12/24/2003, 5:33 PM
Exactly what SonicPCH said. Steinbergs Cubase, and Nuendo do this type of automation. There's usually 3 differnt modes, as used in automated consoles. READ, WRITE, and TRIM. I agree this is a worthwhile feature, for those of us who like to ride faders. It actually makes the automation process so much quicker, rather than adding a bunch of points then adjusting them, then playing it back to see what you did. Before this should happen, there of course should be hardware control support for faders, otherwise riding the fader isn't all that easy with a mouse. I'm keeping my fingers crossed and hoping that this exact type of feature set will be coming soon to Vegas.
MacMoney wrote on 12/28/2003, 2:06 AM
Same here, Red

George Ware