Church Audio Problem

donwidener wrote on 3/24/2008, 3:53 PM
We capture church audio in Vegas off the sound board as a mono signal. Is there any way to convert to stereo (or simply both channels) without editing in Sound Forge (using channel converter)? Here is my main question....when I try to burn a disc in CD Arch it takes 6 hours. If I burn in Roxio, the record time is normal, but when I try to duplicate it in the CD duplicator it won't copy the disc. Also I get messages I don't have "digital rights" to the file. What gives? I just recorded the file. I suspect it has something to do with Vista Home Premium. Please help. Thanks

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Kennymusicman wrote on 3/24/2008, 4:03 PM
1) Yes you can.
2) CDA shouldn't take 6 hours. - and will take care of mono->stereo conversion for you.
3) Nero brun rights - have you installed that? - (it's part of the options at installation)
4) Vista - shouldn't be part of the problem unless you're marking your files as protected or using DRM.
autopilot wrote on 3/24/2008, 5:59 PM
If you're not concerned with disc titles, yadda, yadda, you can burn a CD right from the timeline in Vegas. Go to Tools>Burn Disc>Track At Once CD, and it will burn your CD. I do it all the time.
Chienworks wrote on 3/24/2008, 7:40 PM
Disk-at-Once is probably a better choice than Track-at-Once. You can insert track markers by pressing the N key.

If you really recorded in mono then the sound should already play back in both channels. If you're only hearing it from one speaker then you recorded one channel of a stereo file. This is easy to fix. Right-mouse-button click on the audio event, choose Channels, and then Left only or Right only as necessary. This will tell Vegas to use only that one channel of the recording in both left and right outputs.

I usually record our services in Sound Forge, then burn the CD in Vegas. From the time i click the ok button until the 10x burn is done is usually about 10 minutes for an 80 minute recording.
RalphM wrote on 3/24/2008, 7:56 PM
donwidner - what are you using to make the original CD recording?
donwidener wrote on 3/25/2008, 9:40 PM
Thanks everyone for the help. I will try your suggestions when I get back in town. RalphM, I have been using Vegas 8 to capture, Sound Forge to convert to stereo, and CD Arch to burn. CD arch takes about 6 hours to burn, so I started to use the "lite" roxio software that came on the HP computer. Roxio burns the file qucikly, but the church copier won't copy the Roxio CD like it will the CD arch produced CD. How do you disable DRM? This is driving me nuts! Thanks again!

donwidener wrote on 3/25/2008, 9:42 PM
Kennymusicman,
How do I install Nero burn rights? How can I disable DRM? Thanks for your help so much!
Don
Chienworks wrote on 3/25/2008, 9:46 PM
Don, just do it all right in Vegas. No need to use any other program at all. Vegas will burn a RedBook compatable audio CD with no copy protection or rights issues.
donwidener wrote on 3/25/2008, 9:50 PM
Chienworks,

Thanks for your help. I like to record in Vegas because I can see the waveform as it records. Obviously, I see only the "upper" channel activity on the screen. Can you "draw" the waveform in realtime with SF like you can in Vegas? Sorry for my ignorance. I have used Vegas for years for video but not audio. I have read his forum during that time, have followed your posts on other problems, and I value your advice.

Don
TGS wrote on 3/25/2008, 11:59 PM
Place your Stereo wave in the Timeline of Vegas
Place track markers ('n' key) at the beginning of each song or any area you need to access.
Be sure your levels, eq and FX are set to your liking
Place blank CD in burner
Go to "Tools" dropdown in Vegas and select 'Burn CD' then select 'Disc at once'
A box should pop up to let you know if there is any problems or if you're ready to burn.
Then select "Write CD"
It will ask if you'd like to make another copy after each burn.

(This is only if you have the exact audio for a CD in the Timeline. If you have multiple audio waves in Timeline that exceeds the length of a CD, it can be done, but you need to loop the section you're going to make a CD and place your track markers within that loop, then follow burn steps above. Make sure the last marker is within but at end of the loop and not at the end of the Timeline.)
Chienworks wrote on 3/26/2008, 5:43 AM
Don, no, SoundForge won't show you the waveform until after the recording is done. But, since you like using Vegas, use Vegas. Sound Forge isn't necessary at all for what you're doing.

In Vegas after you're done recording right-mouse-button click on the audio event, choose channels / left only. Now Vegas will know to use only the left channel of the recording and play it back mono through both left and right outputs.
Chienworks wrote on 3/26/2008, 5:54 AM
"you need to loop the section you're going to make a CD"

Personally i would suggest trimming instead of looping. It's a much more straightforward operation, for one thing, and you end up with "what you see on the timeline is what you'll get on the CD" which is a big benefit for lots of people. Loop markers also get lost at the click of a button way too easily. Loop selection also doesn't help in the slightest if you want to eliminate material in the middle as well as material at the ends.

And lastly and far most important, if you trim and cut you can save a .veg file for that CD to be reloaded and burned later exactly the same way without redoing any work. Loop selections aren't preserved in the .veg file.
donwidener wrote on 3/26/2008, 9:43 PM
Chienorks and Everyone Else,

I have been able to burn a dual channel disk as outlined in this forum that works perfectly. I appreciate the help so much. Hopefully, some day I can return the favor.

Don