close gaps creates unwanted fades

Mindmatter wrote on 2/25/2022, 5:59 AM

Hi all

I had to retroactively quantize all events in a project, which usually creates small gaps between events. On closer look, V19 has created fade ins and outs on a lot of the events. Somea re bigger ttan others and visible. Is there a way to prevent that, and is there a way to " delete all fades" or some function like that?

thanks!

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Dexcon wrote on 2/25/2022, 6:19 AM

I cannot be sure that this is the answer, but go into Internal Preferences (Ctrl/Shift/Options) and select 'Internal' at the bottom of the context window that opens. At the bottom of the menu in the search field type 'quantize' and only 2 items will then display. Change them from False to True and then hit Apply and OK. On the timeline, any video or audio event that is not truly edged on to a frame line will then appear with a red edge. You'll likely need to zoom in very closely (micro level) to fine-tune the edge to the exact frame line. I've found over many years that even with quantize set in basic VP settings, the result is not always perfect.

As said above, I don't know if this will be the answer for your issue.

 

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Mindmatter wrote on 2/25/2022, 6:36 AM

thanks Dexcon, that alone is very good to know. I'll try and see.

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jetdv wrote on 2/25/2022, 9:11 AM

I had to retroactively quantize all events in a project, which usually creates small gaps between events. On closer look, V19 has created fade ins and outs on a lot of the events. Some are bigger than others and visible. Is there a way to prevent that, and is there a way to " delete all fades" or some function like that?

The small fade in/out could be because those events were initially overlapping slightly and now they are not but the fades remain.

A script can certainly "delete all fades".

http://www.jetdv.com/2021/07/26/setting-fade-in-out-length-type-and-gain-values-in-vegas-pro/

Mindmatter wrote on 2/26/2022, 5:26 AM

Thanks jetdv!
Unfortunately I have no clue about scripts. I had to manually defade a couple of hundred fades.
Not sure if it was about preexisting overlaps, as the cuts were all simple event cuts where nothing was moved.

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Mindmatter wrote on 2/26/2022, 5:35 AM

 

 

I cannot be sure that this is the answer, but go into Internal Preferences (Ctrl/Shift/Options) and select 'Internal' at the bottom of the context window that opens. At the bottom of the menu in the search field type 'quantize' and only 2 items will then display. Change them from False to True and then hit Apply and OK. On the timeline, any video or audio event that is not truly edged on to a frame line will then appear with a red edge. You'll likely need to zoom in very closely (micro level) to fine-tune the edge to the exact frame line. I've found over many years that even with quantize set in basic VP settings, the result is not always perfect.

As said above, I don't know if this will be the answer for your issue.

 

What a great tool!

Why is it hidden in the preferences? It could be simply an option with a button / icon.

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Dexcon wrote on 2/26/2022, 5:41 AM

What a great tool! Why is it hidden in the preferences? It could be simply an option with a button / icon.

I couldn't agree more. Ideally, the choice should be in Options/Preferences/Display or included under either of the View or Options menu tabs.

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Former user wrote on 2/26/2022, 7:16 AM

What a great tool! Why is it hidden in the preferences? It could be simply an option with a button / icon.

I couldn't agree more. Ideally, the choice should be in Options/Preferences/Display or included under either of the View or Options menu tabs.

Agreed, i sometimes get events with ½-ish frame at the end, in MEP in the settings is Crop Videos, I have it set at 1, that does the same as quantize & removes only that last partial end frame.

gary-rebholz wrote on 3/1/2022, 7:53 AM

What a great tool!

Why is it hidden in the preferences? It could be simply an option with a button / icon.

Then you'll be happy with at least one thing in the next update (coming soon). These preferences have been exposed and you'll find a new option under the Tools menu (where you see the current option Quantize to Frames) which you can use to easily turn the indicators on and off without going into preferences. Shhh...don't tell anyone that I revealed an upcoming new feature before it was released...

RogerS wrote on 3/1/2022, 8:07 AM

I won't tell anybody but that's great news! I learned about its existence here on the forum a few months ago and it's a setting I would hate to lose if I reset Vegas, etc.