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xberk wrote on 5/7/2017, 1:22 PM

Closed captioning does work in Vegas Pro .. a bit complicated .. start with Vegas Help .. search "closed captions" .. What you do depends on exactly what you WANT to do -- Are you trying to import a closed caption file or create one?

 

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JohnnyRoy wrote on 5/7/2017, 2:07 PM

Are you sure you are talking about Closed Captions? Because CC has nothing to do with DVD's. Closed Captions are embedded in line 21 of the video signal for TV broadcast.

DVD's support Subtitles bit that's an entirely different technology. This is very important distinction:

DVD subtitles are decoded by the DVD player, while Closed Captions are decoded by the TV. Another important point is that not all DVD players pass closed caption data. So while you may embed close cations in your source video, they may never make it to the TV depending on your DVD player.

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Former user wrote on 5/7/2017, 3:54 PM

DVDA does not support closed captions. All DVD players, by law, have to support line 21 closed captions, it is up to the TV to decode them. Vegas does embed closed captions in MPEG files but not all DVD players or TVs will read these captions.

Exceptions: For some stupid reason, the industry adopted HDMI as a connection standard and it does not pass Closed Captioning information. And TVs below a certain size do not have to have CC decoders. That is why Bluray does not support CC.

 

JJKizak wrote on 5/7/2017, 5:52 PM

DVDA does not support closed captions. All DVD players, by law, have to support line 21 closed captions, it is up to the TV to decode them. Vegas does embed closed captions in MPEG files but not all DVD players or TVs will read these captions.

Exceptions: For some stupid reason, the industry adopted HDMI as a connection standard and it does not pass Closed Captioning information. And TVs below a certain size do not have to have CC decoders. That is why Bluray does not support CC.

 


That is a wonderment because the HDMI people seem to change their specifications about every 6 months.

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Quitter wrote on 5/8/2017, 3:03 AM

Too much confusing technical details😉

As xberk wrote, closed captioning works in Vegas Pro.
You can export closed captions from Vegas for DVDA with the closed captioning export sript, this will create a .sub file that you can import in DVDA

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Former user wrote on 5/8/2017, 8:16 AM

But to be clear, that creates SUBTITLES, not Closed Captioning.

Quitter wrote on 5/8/2017, 9:31 AM

But to be clear, that creates SUBTITLES, not Closed Captioning.

Yes .sub file is Subtitle
The rest depends on how closely you take it:

Wikipedia:
Most of the world does not distinguish captions from subtitles. In the United States and Canada, however, these terms do have different meanings. "Subtitles" assume the viewer can hear but cannot understand the language or accent, or the speech is not entirely clear, so they transcribe only dialogue and some on-screen text. "Captions" aim to describe to the deaf and hard of hearing all significant audio content - spoken dialogue and non-speech information such as the identity of speakers and, occasionally, their manner of speaking - along with any significant music or sound effects using words or symbols.

The United Kingdom, Ireland, and most other countries do not distinguish between subtitles and closed captions and use "subtitles" as the general term.

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Quitter wrote on 5/8/2017, 9:42 AM

Make a subtitle in your own language with descriptions of music, sound etc.
and you will have your "closed caption"

different technic same result for the viewer

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Former user wrote on 5/8/2017, 10:17 AM

Closed Captionings are handled technically different than Subtitles on a DVD. DVDA does not offer including Closed Captions. Some programs, such as Adobe Encore does allow Closed Captions to be inserted. Closed Caption viewing is controlled by the TV, subtitles are controlled by the DVD player. So there is a technical distinction that is important.

Quitter wrote on 5/8/2017, 12:19 PM

Closed Captionings are handled technically different than Subtitles on a DVD

Who claims what else?

Do you wanna have a result or a technically correct "closed caption" ??
The result for the user is the same, that is important.

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Former user wrote on 5/8/2017, 1:10 PM

Sorry, maybe I misunderstood. I thought you were saying that Closed Caption and Subtitling were handled the same way. Content wise, yes they can be the same. If your program is for broadcast, it must have Closed Caption, for DVDs, subtitles will generally work fine.

Quitter wrote on 5/8/2017, 1:15 PM

we got it 🙂

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Marco. wrote on 5/8/2017, 5:07 PM

Just a side note. There are no line 21 closed captions used in the EBU. What we call "soft subtitles" for television and which is controlled via VT or HbbTV in a similar way as US closed captions are, must be delivered as a separate EBU SFT file.

PeterDuke wrote on 5/12/2017, 8:01 PM

In Australia, the text equivalent of speech and significant sounds in TV broadcasts are called Closed Captions in TV guides, but to most people they are probably just subtitles. (My TV manual refers to them as CC/Subtitles.) They are embedded in the TS video file by a recorder. The CCs may be extracted and converted to plain text SRT subtitle files etc. with CC Extractor GUI. With DVDs and Blu-rays they are called subtitles and may be converted to SRT files etc. using SubRip or Subtitle Edit for DVDs, or HdBrStream Extractor for HD DVDs and Blu-rays.