CLPV, what a horror.

farss wrote on 12/17/2009, 3:36 AM
I thought I'd seen this used with inflght movies but now I have had it in on a new laptop. It stands for Cyberlink Power Video and what it does is anamophically stretch the frame to fill the screen. Pans turn into something like a bad acid trip. Thankfully in the laptop I was able to turn it off real quick.
It's hard enough to get the viewing public to watch our work as intended and now this new horror is upon us.

Bob.

Comments

JJKizak wrote on 12/17/2009, 5:09 AM
Seems like they are finding new ways to advance stretchovision into a new science. It is amazing how many people "accept" this crap as being ok.
JJK
Chienworks wrote on 12/17/2009, 5:15 AM
On the flip side, it's also amazing how many people have extreme, and almost irrational dislike for part of their screen being empty.
craftech wrote on 12/17/2009, 5:48 AM
On the flip side, it's also amazing how many people have extreme, and almost irrational dislike for part of their screen being empty.
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Well Kelly,
I for one am getting used to it.
Why just yesterday someone asked me if I was gaining weight and I replied:

"No, just think of me as a stretched 4:3 image".

John
TheHappyFriar wrote on 12/17/2009, 5:50 AM
it's not irrational, but 4:3 on my 32" LCD costs ~8" off, it's like watching a 20"!

But anyway.... It is aggravating how often this gets messed up. Or when 16:9 gets "zoomed" in & you're missing the sides & a little of the top/bottom.

But I'm wondering how much can be blamed on the setup of the hardware in this case... If the source was flagged wrong then it will look messed up. I'm starting to think instead of 4:3 & 16:9 content, EVERYTHING should be delivered @ 16:9, 4:3 centered in the middle & blar bars put on the sides.
farss wrote on 12/17/2009, 6:09 AM
Oh matey this is not something flagged wrong, oh no. This is way more "advanced".
When I first popped a DVD into the lappy it was a 16:9 DVD and it was being displayed in a 4:3 frame EXCEPT the pixel aspect ratio changes across the frame. The middle looks pretty much normal but towards the edge of the frame it's compressed, it's a non linear anamophic stretch / compress and during a pan it make me feel ill.
Try imaging you took a 16:9 screen and curved the edges so it was bent into a 4:3 size

Bob.
gjesion wrote on 12/17/2009, 6:33 AM
Yeah, I have a friend who has been in video for ~20 years. He recently got an HDTV and when I went to check it out I noticed that he had 4:3 stretched to 16:9. I mentioned this to him and he said "I paid for the wide screen and I'm gonna use it all!". I was dumbfounded!

Regards,
Jerry
kkolbo wrote on 12/17/2009, 6:38 AM

"No, just think of me as a stretched 4:3 image".

John,

You're lucky, they took me and stretched me all the way to 4 perf CinemaScope.

Keith
Rory Cooper wrote on 12/17/2009, 9:26 AM
Most clients say we want it full screen and that’s that.

Often I render content out for large weird size screens with different scalers and depending if its German technology or Chinese they scale differently some top bottom some side to side
so if the source is 4:3 all sorts of cropping takes place so fullscreen 16:9 is safe. Now if we rendered the content 4:3 and there is any black the client wants to know why he is paying for a full screen
and I am giving him half a screen, and I only get half my tom…now that’s horrid
TheHappyFriar wrote on 12/17/2009, 10:07 AM
tell them they're paying by the pixel & 720x480 4:3 is the same # of pixels as 720x480 16:9. :D

Just like asking why they paid more for their suit vs you did: it's the same size after all. :p

ushere wrote on 12/17/2009, 2:22 PM
i often produce videos that get shown in public art galleries - all my new work is 16:9, but some of the older is obviously 4:3.

a lot of public galleries depend on 'sponsorship' style deals for things like large screen tv's or projectors, and more often than not i find the suppliers / installers will automatically 'stretch' 4:3 to 16:9. i've cornered a couple and pointed out that the aspect ratio is obviously wrong, especially since they often depict paintings / sculptures / photographs hanging in the exhibition so comparison is pretty bloody obvious. everytime i've been told that as far as 'they're' concerned, they're selling the tv NOT the show, so they're not going to have ANY black area on screen, full stop!

and, whenever i've pop into a rsl (a sort of sports club cum slot machine pub), there lcd's are ALWAYS set to 16:9 whilst showing 4:3 material. it's no wonder we consider ourselves an obese nation!!!

leslie