color correction

Roger Bansemer wrote on 8/1/2024, 2:36 PM

I'm baffled as to what I might be doing wrong. When I color correct I'm getting the correction on all the tracks, not just the event track. Here's a video. Thanks for any help.

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jetdv wrote on 8/1/2024, 5:28 PM

Did a really quick test and was not able to duplicate that. Perhaps if you post the VEG file?

Steve_Rhoden wrote on 8/1/2024, 5:41 PM

@Roger Bansemer Sorry, im not seeing that here. Double check to make sure that the above track is not an adjustment track etc, or you are using the color correction incorrectly at the track level instead of directly on the event.

mark-y wrote on 8/2/2024, 8:06 AM

It is plausible that you have a Track Compositing Effect on the parent track.

Wolfgang S. wrote on 8/2/2024, 8:35 AM

Have also not been able to repro that.

Could you share a small sample project file where you see that?

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Roger Bansemer wrote on 8/2/2024, 9:07 AM

After messing around with this a bit more I see the problem lies with reducing an image in size. When I reduce the image size the color grading effects everything around the original image size. I just realized this when when I didn't do a "match aspect ratio" and could see the untouched color on the event on both sides indicated with the arrow on the photo.

So... how do you correct an image that has been reduced in size without effecting the event below it on the timeline.

RogerS wrote on 8/2/2024, 9:14 AM

Can you do the color grading on the media or event level (if it's track that's causing this issue?)

Wolfgang S. wrote on 8/2/2024, 9:20 AM

So... how do you correct an image that has been reduced in size without effecting the event below it on the timeline.

Should not be an issue. Apply the color correction to both events in a separate way.

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zzzzzz9125 wrote on 8/2/2024, 9:30 AM

So... how do you correct an image that has been reduced in size without effecting the event below it on the timeline.

@Roger Bansemer I think there's a temporary solution to your problem: put Color Correction FX before Pan/Crop instead of after it.

However, it's definitely a bug and you should contact VEGAS developers to fully solve it.

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Using VEGAS Pro 22 build 248 & VEGAS Pro 21 build 208.

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Roger Bansemer wrote on 8/2/2024, 9:37 AM

Yes.... That's the solution... putting the color correction FX before the pan/crop.
Thanks very much.

jetdv wrote on 8/2/2024, 9:49 AM

I did resize before my test and it worked fine. My "color correction" was automatically placed AFTER Pan/Crop. However, I had resized with Track Motion. Testing again - resizing with Pan/Crop - I'm seeing no difference with before or after and both appear to work correctly.

mark-y wrote on 8/2/2024, 9:56 AM

@Roger Bansemer

You forgot to tell us what fx or at what level you are reducing the image on your top track.

However, since you are applying the color cast at the Track Level, "whatever" you choose to reduce your image should also be applied at the track level.

In your project, Track Motion will work just dandy.

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Roger Bansemer wrote on 8/2/2024, 12:24 PM

@Roger Bansemer

You forgot to tell us what fx or at what level you are reducing the image on your top track.

However, since you are applying the color cast at the Track Level, "whatever" you choose to reduce your image should also be applied at the track level.

In your project, Track Motion will work just dandy.

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Since the track is mainly for a variety of cut aways, I didn't want to apply the color grade on the track level.

Roger Bansemer wrote on 8/2/2024, 12:36 PM

@Roger Bansemer

You forgot to tell us what fx or at what level you are reducing the image on your top track.

However, since you are applying the color cast at the Track Level, "whatever" you choose to reduce your image should also be applied at the track level.

In your project, Track Motion will work just dandy.

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Since the track is mainly for a variety of cut aways, I didn't want to apply the color grade on the track level.

I'm not applying the color corrected image to the track level. I'm applying it to the event level only. But... moving the color grading before the pan/crop solves the problem.

mark-y wrote on 8/2/2024, 1:07 PM

Yes, pre pan/crop would do the same thing.

Roger Bansemer wrote on 8/3/2024, 7:50 AM

Here's a little better video of the issue.