Continuous Music over Three Pages?

VideJoe wrote on 8/25/2006, 11:10 AM
Maybe somebody can help me out with this.

I have three pages in DVA3, each during 15 seconds. One page tranfers to the next automatically after 15 seconds.
I want to add 45 seconds of music without interruption if one page proceeds to the next one.
So far I had to cut the 45 seconds into 3x15 sections, which obviously is not what I want.
Is this possible in DVDA3?

~Dries

Comments

ScottW wrote on 8/25/2006, 11:15 AM
If these pages are each individual menus, no it's not possible. Not with any authoring package.

Depending on what you're trying to accomplish, you might be able to do this with "Buttons over video" - but you'll need to wait for DVDA 4 to provide that support (or switch to something like DVD Lab Pro 2.0).

--Scott
VideJoe wrote on 8/25/2006, 11:46 AM
Thanks Scott, but there are no menus on these pages, just a forward backward button, but I guess these qualify for menus in DVDA?
So what you are saying there's no way to strech 45 seconds of music over three 15 second pages in DVDA3, but possible in DVDA4?

~Dries.
ScottW wrote on 8/25/2006, 1:40 PM
If it's got a button on it in DVDA3, then it's a menu. Your forward/back buttons are simply 2 menu choices.

The audio has to do with the DVD specification; it's not a limitation in DVDA.

Disclaimer - the following assumes that BOV's in DVDA4 are implemented in a similar fashion to those in DVD Lab Pro (which they probably are, since the spec dictates how this is done, but there may be some minor differences in usage).

If DVDA4 has a feature called "Buttons Over Video" (and rumors say it does) then you may be able to achieve what you want.

What you would do is render a single 45 second clip with the video and the audio. BOV's are contained within a chapter, so you'd have 3 chapters (the start of the clip is the implied first chapter).

In your first chapter you'd have probably just your single button to move forward. Second chapter would have forward/back buttons and third chapter would just have a back button (or would it?). The action of each button would be to link to the appropriate chapter in the clip.

So, if the user does nothing, the audio and video play seamlessly from beginning to end, with buttons appearing and disappearing as chapters. change. If the user selects a button and presses enter on the remote, then the button links to the appropriate chapter.

--Scott
bStro wrote on 8/26/2006, 5:36 AM
What's the context / purpose of these three pages?

If if they're not "menus" (as you say), what did you use to add them to your project?

If each one just "transfers" automatically to the next page after 15 seconds, and you've got music that you want to play the whole time, would a picture compilation suit your needs? You won't be able to add the buttons, but that doesn't seem important to me if you already want them to go forward after 15 seconds. And items within a picture compilation are automatically added as "chapters," so the viewer can use the Back and Forward buttons on their remote if they want.

Rob
VideJoe wrote on 8/26/2006, 11:19 PM
The purpose of the three individual pages is that on two pages I use animated backdrops. One page has a background picture.
On the first two pages there are no selectable items. The third page will hold all the selectable clips.

~Dries
ScottW wrote on 8/27/2006, 6:48 AM
Then render this as a single 45 minute clip, and check out the help file for delayed menu buttons. Set your menu buttons to appear only in the last 15 seconds of the clip.

--Scott
VideJoe wrote on 8/27/2006, 7:22 AM
This is indeed a very useful tip Scott.
So far I never used delayed menu buttons but now realize how they come in quite handy in this situation.

Thanks, Dries.
grh wrote on 8/30/2006, 6:10 AM
OK, I'm clearly missing something here. I've searched the online DVDA help file for "delay" and "delayed", looked through all the hits for "button" and examined every property tab for a menu button. I don't see anything regarding "delayed menu button". Nor is there anything in the PDF user's guide (that I can find). Where, _exactly_, is this function documented? A detailed pointer is much appreciated!! Or could someone explain precisely what is necessary to delay the appearance of a menu button?

Thanks!
bStro wrote on 8/30/2006, 7:30 AM
Just a matter of terminology. DVDA's terminology for this is "loop point." It's where the menu will begin its loop after it finishes its initial play of the menu background. It just happens to "delay" the appearance of any buttons until that loop point.

Rob
grh wrote on 8/30/2006, 4:39 PM
Ah. Loop points I knew about; I was hoping for some new, unknown function. Will have to wait for version 4, I suppose.
ScottW wrote on 8/30/2006, 6:26 PM
Delayed menu buttons are available in DVDA 3.0.
bStro wrote on 8/30/2006, 8:01 PM
Will have to wait for version 4, I suppose.

Wait for what? As I said, DVDA already has delayed buttons -- it just uses a different name for it.

Rob
grh wrote on 8/31/2006, 4:35 AM
For fun, and for a bit more control, as I asked about in this thread.

That's the thing: only certain HTML tags are available. Wasn't sure which applied here... but now I've learned something. Good stuff.
bStro wrote on 8/31/2006, 5:44 AM
(Sorry, not sure how to embed hyperlinks in this forum.)

Just regular ol' HTML:



Rob