Copying between two open iterations of Vegas

mudsmith wrote on 7/20/2012, 12:04 PM
As per the suggestions in another thread, I set up two open versions of Vegas 11 in order to copy clips from on project to another........This works fine for audio clips on to an audio track, or video clips onto a video track, but I don't seem to be able to get synced or grouped audio and video clips to copy over together.

I have tried every combo of grouping, selecting multiple tracks, selecting multiple clips without grouping, etc.

What am I missing here? This is moderately useless if I can't bring over synced but offset video and audio together. There must be a step I don't know about.

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PeterDuke wrote on 7/20/2012, 7:28 PM
I have always found that if the events (audio, video, generated media) are selected and copied, they will paste into the destination instance (same version of Vegas). If you are copying from tracks 1 to 3 say, then make sure that track 1 is first selected in the destination before pasting or the tracks won't line up. The types of tracks being pasted into have to agree with the source of course (or be blank). If the audio and video are linked, as they normally are, then selecting one should select both.

You must have something switched off that I don't know about, or Vegas needs to be reinstalled.
mudsmith wrote on 7/20/2012, 7:30 PM
Well, I have certainly tried every variation, including making sure that both tracks are selected in both projects, etc.......and the aud and vid do not come over together, whether grouped or not.

What could I have switched off that would cause this to happen? I certainly can't think of anything.

Any other suggestions from experienced users?
PeterDuke wrote on 7/20/2012, 7:40 PM
Do you do a Paste Insert?
mudsmith wrote on 7/21/2012, 6:44 PM
If you mean do I "Copy" on the source side, then "Paste" on the destination side, yes that is what I am doing. If there is some other "insert" operation required, I may be missing what you mean.

Can't bring over audio and video together, only video clips or audio clips.

I should say that both aud and vid have effects on them, but these come over just fine.
mudsmith wrote on 7/21/2012, 6:58 PM
I think I may have actually found the problem: The project I am trying to copy from, because I created it by eliminating lots of tracks, has the single audio track above the single video track.........The new project does not allow me to create this arrangement. It always adds video tracks at the top, audio tracks at the bottom.

It seems there should be a way of reshuffling track positions/numbers, but I have not yet been able to find it.

As of now, I think Vegas can't deal with this over/under going from one project to another.
PeterDuke wrote on 7/21/2012, 7:12 PM
On the Edit menu you have the choices of:

Paste (overwrites if Auto Ripple is not selected elsewhere)
Paste Repeat (never used it)
Paste Insert (always pushes stuff aside to make room)
Paste Event Attributes (attributes from source applied to destination)

By the way, what do you have Auto Ripple set to? (14th icon from the left on the main tool bar)
PeterDuke wrote on 7/21/2012, 7:17 PM
"It seems there should be a way of reshuffling track positions/numbers, but I have not yet been able to find it"

Just drag the track header (at the left) to where you want it.
mudsmith wrote on 7/21/2012, 7:21 PM
Just figured that out on my own a minute ago......but thanks.

And that fixed it. Voila!

Thanks again. I am a pretty quick study with software, but have really only been using Vegas for a short time, so don't know some fairly obvious things, it seems.
PeterDuke wrote on 7/21/2012, 7:22 PM
I just dragged the video on a project so that it was under the audio and did a copy and paste into a new instance of Vegas (9c) . It copied as expected, with the video under the audio.
mudsmith wrote on 7/21/2012, 7:25 PM
....And, BTW, I always keep Auto Ripple off except when I want to use it. After over 20 years of DAW editing, I long ago learned how dangerous that kind of control can be when you don't necessarily see what is happening beyond the area of the imeline you are looking at.
mudsmith wrote on 7/21/2012, 7:28 PM
As per your over/under description above (and I am working in 11), it worked for me, too, but only if the destination project had the same relationship as the source project.....as described in my previous posts.

So that would seem to be part of the working algorithm in Vegas.
PeterDuke wrote on 7/21/2012, 7:29 PM
Yes, Auto Ripple is a two-edged sword. I prefer to have it on for most things and mutter under my breath when it mucks something up.
Gary James wrote on 7/21/2012, 8:37 PM
So is having the Sync Cursor button depressed in the Video Event FX window ( looks like a small lock next to a capitol letter I, just below the keyframe track window).

With this depressed, you can end up accidentally creating new keyframes even though all you wanted to do was set an overall FX setting for the entire run of the Event.
Arthur.S wrote on 7/22/2012, 5:55 AM
Amen to that one Gary! V11 made that even more of a pain by hiding the keyframe timeline unless you chose 'Animate'. It still added the keyframes though if you'd selected the cursor sync on a previous clip and hadn't deselected it. A real GOTCHA!!!