I'm trying to copy them from the DVD drive(a reader and a burner) in the computer to my hard drive, windows refuses to copy any of the vob that have been split at 1gig. The only thing i want to do with them is burn another DVD. I tried this on another computer with the same result.

I have noticed the same behavior.

When I used to use ULead's "DVD Workshop," I would routinely burn a DVD-RW disc to proof, then drag the contents onto my hard drive, add a few extra "DVD-ROM" folders, and reburn the disc using another program, such as NERO 5.5.

Using DVD-A, I get the "corrupt file" warning every time I try to do this same thing. Further, I've spent the past year pulling my hair out trying to find a program that will burn compliant discs from the VOBs, IFOs, etc on the hard drive. NERO complains that there's something 'not right' about the files produced by DVD-A, which is very scary.

We've batted these issues around here, but I haven't gotten a solution yet. I'm staring at my watch waiting for DVD-A 2.0 in hopes that these problems get solved, but with the Sony buyout and the resulting price hike, I don't know what to think anymore.

I love Vegas so much that I want to stick with this SoFo/Sony production chain, but the problems with the asset files that DVD-A creates are driving me to the nut-house.

Check out DVD Decripter and/or DVD Shrink. Free software. They seem to work fine. I used DVD Decripter on one of my DVDA titles. Reburned with DVDA. Worked just fine. Also check out another free program called Clone DVD. It seem to work fine too. I also used DVD Shrink to shrink a 9 gig DVD to under 4.7 and the results were very good.

Thanks wobblyboy!! DVD Shrink did the trick and IS free!
http://www.dvdshrink.info/fulldisk_basic.php
DVD Clone didn't copy the 1gig files , just ignored them with out any warning that it was not going to use them, but did use the less than 1gig files. I have DVD X Copy Xpress and CopyToDVD on my machine and neither one would copy the 1gig files, but reported a problem with them.
dvddude you can now grow some hair!!!
Thanks again wobblyboy!! You saved me alot of needless work(Is Sony listening?)

This is pretty odd as I've been able to copy DVDs produced by DVDA with never an issue. Not just on my PC but on duplicators and even on a (shudder) Mac.
To copy I just use RecordNowDX. Could this be a burner issue perhaps or an OS / burner issue. Heaps of people here are sending DVDs out to dup houses so there'd be blood on the walls if there was a fundamental problem in DVDA.

farss have you ever tried to copy the 1gig vobs, ie the ones that have been split by DVDA, from the disc to your hard drive using windows explorer? If not got you give it try and let us know the result? I find that the 1gig files that are already on the hard drive can be copyied within the computer but when they get on the disc windows2000 and 98se and 2 of my copying programs say they are corrupt. Any other burning software I've used does not have this problem.

Things are getting even stranger!
I made my DVD directories on the hard drive using DVD Srink from the corrupt DVDA discs. Then I burned them with DVDA. The resulting disc now allows copying of the 1gig vobs. Huh?

Holy C**p,
you're dead right! I'd say the problem is the FAT doesn't correctly reflect teh file size so Windoz has an understable dummy spit.

I'll try making a copy using RecordNowDX. This a pretty major problem if that will not copy it.

OK,
RecordNowDX from Veritas seems to copy the DVD just fine. (phew).
I suspect my theory is right, it's probably a FAT issue.
I haven't used RecordNow to get the files onto HD although it must have done so during the copy process as I copied onto the same drive. I'll see if the copied DVD has the same problem and if I can get it to directly copy the files from the source DVD to HD.

Well,
I can confirm the copy is just fine. However it is truly an EXACT copy!
The VOBs on the copy have the same problem. RecordNow will let me create an image file but that doesn't seem to help with your problem. Also RecordNow reports that this is a Closed DVD, typically closed DVDs do not permit extraction of their assets.
There is a another standard, Open DVD which includes a file to aid asset extract. I know Sonic's DVD Producer supports this standard for doing exactly what you want to do. It's a bit expensive though.
I have a 15 day trial version I should really give a try out.

I'm now getting into making corporate DVDs and being able to retrieve the assets to make minor changes will be vital, keeping all the assets on a HD would be another way I guess but although they are cheap enough still painful. With the stuff on DVD I can give the Open master to the client and just forget about it. Keeping it on HD makes it my responsibility and I don't like that.

It would be nice if SONY chimed in on this. I have a commercial DVD ,double sided no less, that is not encrypted that I can copy all the vobs to the hard drive. Why would the DVD I burned with DVDA ,after the vobs had gone thru DVD Shrink, not have the copy problem. Strange indeed!!

I have not had any problems copying to hard drive. I have simply selected the vob and ifo files I want and used copy-paste to move them to hard drive. I have had to make sure that vob files and ifo files are in a folder called video_ts and that there was an empty folder called audio_ts in the folder pointed to if I want to burn with DVDA. I have selected specific vob and ifo files, copyed them to hard drive into folder named video_ts, added empty audio_ts folder and burned using DVDA. However if I want to clone a disk, I use Clone DVD. If I want to clone an encripted disk I use DVD Decripter. If I need to shrink to fit on 4.7 gig DVD, I use DVD Shrink. So far I haven't had any problems. I keep my fingers crossed.

I just tried something. I simply pointed DVDA at DVD Drive with audio_ts and video_ts folders and it seemed perfectly willing to burn from disc to disk. I couldn't test on the computer I am on because it dosen't have two DVD drives. I will try it on my other computer and let you know how well it works.

wobblyboy, where any of the files the 1gig files? That's were me ,farss, and dvddude have observed the problem. When trying to copy them to the hard drive windows says there corruppt. Any vob that's less than 1gig to begin with and the smaller files after a split at 1gig copy without a problem. I never thought to try pointing DVDA at the disc. I have both a DVD burner and rom in my box, I'll give a try tomorrow. I also have copied the entire contents of dvd's I've created to the hard drive, but they weren't authored or burned with DVDA.

wobblyboy,
I got fooled at first!
You CAN simply copy - paste a VOB file, so long as it isn't one where DVDA has done a split. One my system I can copy a VOB file from a DVDA disk no problems until I tried one thats 1,048,576 KB long. Those ones are no go.
I have a suspicion this relates to another known issue, the files are also not the correct chuck size (for lack of a better description). This causes things like Nero to complain that the files are non compliant. Doesn't seem to cause any issues with the DVD players though but they're not as obsessed as Windoz is about file stuctures.

This is follow up to my last post:
I tried the direct burn from the DVD-rom drive to the DVD burner using a DVDA authored and burned DVD. The burn failed with this message:
"An error occured reading data from a file on the system. Make sure you have access to all data files needed to write this disc"
With these details:
'SFMMCX'-(17)
'atapi'-(0)
-'PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-105 1.21'-(0)
Module sfmmcx.cpp Line 1682

Status: 00000000
Command:
Sense: 00 00 00
Info: 00 00 00 00
Specific: 00 00 00

I also tried this test with a disc authored and burned with Uleads movie factory, worked great.

I have a couple of long projects. I will burn one and see if I can duplicate the problem. Will let you know what happens. Wobbly Boy

RecordNow was able to mirror the problem DVD to HD except it it is a compressed mirror, i.e. it's all one file so not much use for solving your problem.
I think this does need some urgent attention by Sony. It's not causing me any real grief but I know a lot of people consider DVD a good way to archive material (that's a problem too, I know), I think they're going to be mighty annoyed when they get hit with this problem.

Quite apart from that how are they going to duplicate the DVD they've just burnt. Sure I can do it but I need another app. As you've said you can use DVDA to duplicate a DVD authored by the competitions product yet not by DVDA. Not a good marketing point.

When you used DVD shrink, did you actually have to 'shrink' the file or were you able to get it back without it being recompressed?

Maybe it could be preserved by Sony as a neat option - a form of copy protection for authored disks, if in fact it does not interfere with playback?

farss,
DVD shrink basically acted like a copy command. Since everthing was already on the DVD it didn't need to do any compression. Somehoe it doesn't have a problem with the DVDA files.

wombat,
I had the same thought, maybe Sony is trying to implemant there own copy protection scheme.