Maybe he's busy, maybe he want's the plugins to be widely available rather than "Vegas only",...any number of reasons.

Rob Mack

I'm not sure I understand. You're talking about a seperate application that you can open a single media file in and then apply an effect?

I can see this as part of the batch converter program... Specify a set of files, define an effects stack, and then batch render them. But then, I think the current batch tool comes pretty close.

Or are you talking about a polished developement tool that helps make effects plugins for Vegas? THAT seems more valuable and of course the effects could also be used in a stand-alone utility.

I think the points about encouragement and rewards are really the most important here.

Rob Mack

Rob, Where Im coming from and I think a lot of people have cottoned onto this. I was recently asking about using Magic Bullet, only to discover In order to use this, I have to buy AE. I expect once I have AE then there could be other Plugins that I might want perhaps having to use premier pro as well.

Slowly but surely being lured over to Adobe

I DONT WANT TO BE

I like Vegas I grew up here and this is what I know but to keep the product fresh Vegas has to be on the ball. AE (My Opinion has a very good marketing strategy)

I dont want to see Vegas being sold as an accessory to DVD Players or the cheaper Sony products and being left to stagnate in the meantime. It has to be a frontrunner, up there with the latest wave of developments being handed down from the Big Boys.

This is what I would like to see happen Vegas have something similar to AE but perhaps even more accessible for other plugins Perhaps talks with Boris red could PAVE the way to go.

I think Sony/Vegas should just release a major plugin pack for Vegas 4.0+ and put it up in the "FREE STUFF (am I dreaming again? yes!) section , or sell it as an addon(s). Who's better to *make* such things than the author him/herself.

Mark2929, I like your "SDK (software development kit) for VEGAS" idea -- but the development kit should be freely available from SONY to encourage developers to spend *their* time to write more plugins in order to keep Vegas alive and up there for a long time. Just like you, I'm in love with Vegas (just because this is the only editing tool that hasn't crashed EVER on my machine during a project -- Premiere did a few times =P).

Addu786

The Development tool is already there, called the SDK or Software Developers Kit, and has been free for a few years. This is necessary for anyone developing software for Vegas. Sony is one of the few companies giving this away, and due to the increasing popularity of Vegas, I'll be surprised if it stays free forever.

Looking back at my post I guess I forgot to mention the SDK.

I'm not really sure why more plugin development hasn't been done for Vegas. Maybe the skill level required is too high, maybe the market isn't really fertile enough, maybe the user base isn't large enough.

My guess is that a small part of it has to do with a lack of support for hardware. Supporting hardware and getting bundled with it requires the hardware vendors to write plugins.

But that's not enough to explain it. Personally, I think that some of it has had to do with outreach from SoFo to other developers. Probably that was because there wasn't enough money at SoFo to pay for the effort. Hopefully that will change over the next two revs of Vegas.

Rob Mack

Market share, market share, market share.....

NO other reason. Obviously, Satish, Pixelan and Boris can all write (quite good) plug-ins for Vegas. No reason why anyone else shoud have problems. It's just a matter of whether it 's worth it or not for them to invest time to write the code.

Keep in mind that Sonic Foundry was always teetering on the edge of bankruptcy. Why would you spend time writing plug-ins for software that could very well end up in the trash bin? Hopefully, the Sony acquisition will help convince developers that Vegas will be around for a while.

Meanwhile, I think Vegas has a leg up on the competition through its support of scripting. This makes it almost like an open source NLE, since individuals like Ed Troxel and others can add a variety of features to Vegas with minimal overhead. An army of software engineers is not necessary.

Finally, I don't see why using Adobe's excellent After Effects compositing software should necessarily push you to using Premiere as well. After Effects is designed as a standalone program, and works quite well in conjunction with Vegas. Indeed, Hollywood post-production houses who would never dream of editing with Premiere have for years used After Effects with Avids.

Mark, what type of plugin are you thinking of that we can't create in V4? I'm absolutely sure there are . . . please give me a clue - yeah?

Grazie

BStanding- Its funny you should mention TSUNAMI I purchased it yesterday and used it to make my film "No Nookie Ma "on Chienworks. In an amazingly short time. EXCELLENT little Plugin.

Scripts. This is an area where Vegas is Superb. When it comes to Editing then Vegas is for me the best. I just want to improve what I can do. I cant have soundstages, or pro Actors or Composers, ect ect. But what I can have is great titles, excellent Keying, Any Mic I want in soundforge 7(Well a good selection) Make my own music in acid. Then to top it all off AC3 and a FILM look.

Now I can make something that looks professional at an amatuer level.

My suggestion is that if Vegas where to have those extras in some form IE version 5 or a standalone interface Then It would be everything I could wish for In an NLE package.

I dont expect these things THOUGH Im just Airing my Wishlist.

Grazie yeah umm MAgic Bullet.

I know our Cammie does a very good job in frame mode but I used two of vegas filters a suggestion posted by fars * GLOW* and *LEVELS* messed around with the settings and

WWWOOOOOOWZY

A Film look. All this time I had been messing around with Pseudo film looks, and here it is on my DVD. On my 8 foot Projector Screen. I was "Enlightened" Not perfect though. Needs Developing. This has now become my Holy Grail. The Film look I know Vegas can do it I Know they can. Ma saw this film and was taken hook line and sinker.

Some Comments from Ma (Mother in Law)

Wasent that dangerous how did you do that(Total Absorption) on and on. Ect.... I was to busy picking my jaw up from the floor.

Excellent.

I have been using the Pixelan FX stuff for Vegas and it's great. I think Sony Vegas sees enough og these guys making this stuff for Vegas that they are satified with it.