CPU only 20% stressed during rendering??

marcel-vossen wrote on 3/5/2009, 11:14 AM
Hey there,

I noticed that on my new i7 CPU based system my CPU is only 20% stressed during the rendering process. So i assume there is a reason for that, shouldnt Vegas take as much CPU capacity and other resources it possibly can?

One would assume there would be another bottleneck or something, but my PC is fully functional during the rendering, no other hardware parts are even close to getting stressed, HD, memory its all at a few percent....

Plus I can do whatever I want even burn some DVDs if I want to...

Anyone?



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blink3times wrote on 3/5/2009, 12:13 PM
CPU stress can go from what you're seeing now right on over to 100% depending on what you're rendering
musicvid10 wrote on 3/5/2009, 12:17 PM
Biggest thing I've noticed is what encoder is being used. The same project might utilize 100% rendering in AVC but 30% in MPEG-2.
Katau wrote on 3/5/2009, 12:51 PM
Yep...I've seen the same thing. Some encoders only utilize a single CPU. Others utilize 2...and others use all 4. I'm fairly certain that it's not a Vegas issue.
busterkeaton wrote on 3/5/2009, 1:43 PM
This probably means the processor is flying and the disk is the bottleneck. Throw a heavy blur on the footage and You'll probably see it go up to 100%.

Not only do different encoders sometimes use one core and sometimes four, the FX you use might have the same issue.
srode wrote on 3/5/2009, 4:40 PM
If your HDD is running continuously (your drive light is on solid not blinking) then it's probably the bottle neck. If this is the problem - a RAID array and/or faster drives can speed things up, as can the use of multiple drives - one to read from and one to write to. RAID 5 reads pretty fast - RAID 0 or 10 can be written to at much higer speeds generally.

The amount of RAM installed can choke the processor as well.
marcel-vossen wrote on 3/6/2009, 1:17 AM
If my disk would be the bottleneck (its one WD 1001FALS 1Tb SATA disk) , I doubt that it would be possible to use the computer like nothing is running during rendering and do anything as fast as I want.

Everything is still very instable too, projects that work fine all day all of a sudden give an error 'file missing' on load , a file that is still there 100% certain. A retry gives no erros, or an error on another file that is also just THERE., I mean, how can I work with a program like this...

I've seen others with the same problems here so it can't be just me.

I'm gonna re-install Vista 64 , but now I will use the Business version, I have the Ultimate version installed but don't use the fancy mediacenter any way, maybe that is the problem..
musicvid10 wrote on 3/6/2009, 8:04 AM
Ctrl+Alt+Del->Start Task Manager->Performance->Resource Monitor
rmack350 wrote on 3/6/2009, 8:16 AM
Well, I think that as others have said, it's certainly possible that 20% is perfectly normal in certain circumstances. You could be using codecs or filters that aren't multithreaded, in which case you might see one core running near %100 and three running slack. Or 8 and 2 since you've got hyperthreading (but remember with hyperthreading that this is just a method of getting one core to do several things more efficiently. HT can actually be a hindrance if all the core is supposed to be doing is render)

It could maybe be Vegas, maybe Vista, maybe your codec choice or filter choices, maybe the number of tracks in the project, maybe a faulty disc, maybe a perfect storm of all of the above.

The fact that you say files seem to go missing makes me think that there's something up with the hard disc.

Rob Mack

Maybe a virus checker, disc cataloger...
willlisub wrote on 3/12/2009, 10:17 PM
I'm running an overclocked Q6600 quad. I don't have the numbers with me, but I did some testing with the converting my 1920x1080i qt 264 files in cineform into an AVI file.

I then took a one minute segment and rendered it to 1920x1080 24p with exact settings in vegas and microsofts encoder. Windows encoder was faster. Just a straight transcode, no edits, no filters.

I rendered to a striped 0 array with 2 drives. CPU usage in Vegas was around 50%-60%, CPU usage in windows media encoder was around 90%.

When I transcoded from Cineform, CPU usage was around 98%. Both used all 4 cores.

I concluded that Vegas wasn't as effecient as Windows media encoder on straight encoding. Sorry I don't remember the exact numbers. Hopefully Vegas will be quicker in the next version.
CorTed wrote on 3/13/2009, 10:08 AM
I also have noticed my renders fluctuate between 30% and 100% purely based on what effects, material and codec was used. If no effects are present on the timeline the rendwers flies at 100%.

One way I found recently to make sure your harware is capable of running all 4 cores. Download a copy of Handbrake, this is a video conversion software.
It can take a DVD or DVD file (TS Folder) and convert to other formats.
I converted some DVD files from my hard drive to the m4v format and the processors ran at 100% constantly (for over an hour),it never came down from 100%.... I was afraid I would be burning it up. (temps were 58Deg C, pretty decent)
At any rate this was a good test for me to see if 4 cores can run constantly.
and find out if the hard drives etc. can handle the speed. Give it a try.

Ted