"Create trimmed copies" not working as expected

megabit wrote on 12/25/2008, 2:19 PM
After finishing a large project, I wanted to do do some housecleaning on my disks, and used the option as in the header. I wanted to have all used clips in one place; possibly copy it to several archives. I imagined it would "Create trimmed copies" of my media, but instead it simply copied them so the target directory of the saved project is huge. It simply doesn't work the way it's supposed; why?

Similar situation with DVDA - when I use "save as" with the copy media option, it will copy ALL media files that were used in the given project at some stage, but then it was replaced by another file...

What am I missing?

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farss wrote on 12/25/2008, 3:28 PM
I *think* this only works with DV due to the issues inherent in most other kinds of video. I'd be mighty impressed if Vegas was able to trim a MXF clip with handles without re-encoding it.

Bob.
johnmeyer wrote on 12/25/2008, 5:47 PM
Bob is correct: it only works with DV files in versions 7 and before. It might trim MPEG-2 files in V8, since it has "smart render," but I don't know if the Sony engineers thought to add the code to let it do that. It should, but I don't know if it does.

Again, the reason it doesn't trim most video files is that Vegas doesn't contain the logic to do lossless cuts (smart render) on more than DV and MPEG-2.
Chienworks wrote on 12/25/2008, 7:05 PM
As far as copying all the files, even removed ones, it copies everything referenced in the media pool whether it's on the timeline or not. You might want to consider cleaning the media pool first before using this function.
megabit wrote on 12/26/2008, 2:19 AM
Thanks guys. Good to know it's not me making some stupid mistake; John is right it should work for mxf as Vegas is actually capable of smart rendering it. But it doesn't, even though the 'trimmmed" option is active (should be grayed out by Vegas)...

Also, cleaning the DVDA project before saving with media might help; I cannot find this option in DVDA, though. Where is it?

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Chienworks wrote on 12/26/2008, 5:47 AM
Cleaning the project media bin is in Vegas, not DVDA. As far as i know there's now 'save with trimmed media' function in DVDA anyway.
farss wrote on 12/26/2008, 6:05 AM
For DVD creation I have a folder called "DVD Assets".
All material for the DVD goes in there e.g. mpeg-2 and .wav files etc.

As there's nothing in there that isn't used (usually) then it's a trvial task to archive that folder.

Bob.
megabit wrote on 12/26/2008, 9:31 AM
All true, but the question remains: where does DVDA remember the names of media files and other assets (like a custom menu page), which were used in the project but have been replaced with other file names? The only way of getting rid of them is indeed copy all the assets currently used to a separate folder, then open the project and select "leave off line" when it's looking for them...

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