Thanks Kelly,
I do have affect everything (markers, regions, bus everything) selected whenever I delete the hole but I'm guessing you're saying I should turn on auto ripple? I leave it off except when deleting these holes or I will invariably screw things up...ie I just selected all the tracks to the right of the split (with auto ripple on) and dragged to the right...only the one I dragged cropped and then it alone butted up to the clip on the left leaving everything else including it's associated audio track (fortunately I was paying attention and realized so was able to ctrl z but.....
Please elaborate on why you asked me that question.
Thanks again,
Randy

Randy, from your description it sounded like only the items on one track ("the top track") were moving and the other tracks weren't.

If i'm understanding you correctly, the way to have events further down the timeline move in response to edits is to have auto ripple on.

Personally, i have auto ripple on almost all the time. About the only time i ever turn it off is for L or J cuts.

Maybe I didn't express myself well, I'll try again...I have no problem moving all tracks, all the way down the timeline.
It's the 6 tracks that I have to crop one at a time before moving the tracks (deleting the hole with auto ripple on) that is so time consuming.
I'm just not sure why Vegas deselects them (except for the one that I'm dragging to the right) when I try to crop them.

Thanks again Kelly,
Randy

Because of the basic danger of screwing up your work downstream that you cannot see, I only turn Auto Ripple on when I need it, then turn it off.

HOWEVER, Auto Ripple does exactly what the OP is asking to do, and with zero effort, and no need to select multiple tracks as long as you have chosen the correct options in the Auto Ripple menu.

Likewise, splitting across all video and audio tracks that are selected is an equally simple option......so the pain in the butt part of it is nonexistent.

It is so painless, however, that I, personally , keep Auto Ripple off except when I need it. I don't like doing actions that I cannot see off screen except when I know I want to be doing that. Simple safety precaution. It is awfully easy to click a mouse a couple of times and find out that you have really undone a lot of work at a point where you then have to undo a lot of other work in order to get back to where you were.

The way Auto Ripple works when you have the "All" function selected is that everything in the project, on all tracks, to the right of the clip/event you are selecting and moving, will move with it as if grouped.........If you trim the front of the first event or an event to the left of it, everything will move to take up that space as well.

The only time I have seen this function screw up so far in 11 was when I was doing an Auto Ripple right near the front of the project, and a clip to the left of the move point ended up being deleted when I moved everything to the left of it.........there was some sort of logical problem because the clip started at the top of the project or something. Other than that, the function has always worked, and I have tried really hard to remember to turn it off as soon as I use it.....

If you are trying to split 6 events in the same place at the same time, you simply select all 6 by Ctrl/Click, then split at the cursor......you can then selct everything from either side of the cursor the same way and delete all of them at once if you want.

If things are grouped prior to this in a way that interferes with this, you need to turn that grouping off.

If you are trying to trim everything by the same amount, in some instance grouping them will actually allow this as well.

In any case, Ctrl/click, like all other Windows functions, allows multiple random selections.

Randy, if I understand what you're asking, this sounds like something my free Timeline Tools utility was designed to do in just a few mouse clicks. The Track Tools Tab has controls that let you configure all, or selected Events on a Track to set Event Length, Overlap or Gaps between Events, Overlap Fade Type, and even apply random transition effects if desired.

The main display grid allows you move one or more Events around on the timeline, or reverse the order of selected Events. There are also dozens more features like moving points on the timeline, and adding or removing effects.

Reading through your post, the final tidbit: If you have selected multiple clips, but then put your cursor in a new place, depending on where you click, you could be deselecting and then selecting a new clip....I think you can place the cursor by clicking above the timeline and avoid this, but I would have to check........I think you can also click in the bottom section of the clip (Cntrl/click) without placing the cursor there, but my Vegas computer is shut down now, so I will have to check.

The cursor matters for the splitting operation, but even then it is easy to keep placing the cursor in the same place.....6 times....as long as the magnetic function is turned on because it will always go to the front edge of the clip you click next to.

If the trim edge function, for some reason, is how you have to work, you can try grouping as I said, or, again, trim each clip inidvidually with the cursor at the front edge of the last clip you trimmed, the display will show you when you get to the cursor.

A quick test reveals that you can split all events on multiple TRACKs at once by selecting all the tracks in the track windows to the left (Ctrl/click each track window), then placing the cursor by clicking above the time line, then hitting S......all track events on all tracks selected then split at the cursor.

This is about as far as I am going to test on my current project.......don't want to get into a lot of other grouping tests, etc. with an active project......just realize that selecting multiple tracks can effect overall grouping of actions as well as selecting multiple clips/events.

Most of these kinds of actions will translate, at least roughly, from one DAW or NLE to another, at least on the same platform.

First of all, thanks so much for everyone's efforts....but unfortunately apparently I still have not expressed myself clearly.
Let's forget about auto ripple...here's what I do need to find out how to do;
Okay, I have a bunch of tracks and I click below all those tracks where I want to split and hit "s"...it splits all tracks as expected ...now I want to trim/crop all tracks at once instead of pulling each track individually to the right (cropping) .
Does that make sense? Maybe someone answered me above but I'm just too dumb to get it?
Thanks again very much everyone,
Randy

You can trim them all at once by splitting them.....that is the simple answer: split, then delete everything to the side of the split you want to lose.

As I said before, if you have to use the trim tool that adjusts the edge of the clip, you can group all the affected clips, or you can adjust the first clip, place the cursor at the newly adjusted point, then adjust the next clip to the point where it indicates you have reached the cursor, then so on.

The splitting method works if you are not trying to retain the fade. The other two methods will retain the fade.

The grouping method will allow everything to be adjusted by the same amount without having to be adjusted to the same place in time.....at least in some instances. I have not worked out all the rules of the road for this one yet.

"A quick test reveals that you can split all events on multiple TRACKs at once by selecting all the tracks in the track windows to the left (Ctrl/click each track window), then placing the cursor by clicking above the time line, then hitting S......all track events on all tracks selected then split at the cursor."

Yep, that's about the most basic functionality of Vegas 101 !

geoff

It seems you cannot drag the edges of multiple events at the same time.

But the 'edge highlighting' timeline display function makes it super-easy to drag the edges of a bunch of different events to exactly match the first in just seconds.

geoff

Yep, that's about the most basic functionality of Vegas 101 !

Yes Geoff, or even simpler than that is just click below the tracks and hit "s"!
I suppose the simple answer (for me) is to split at one point and then another and shift click select the middle section to be cut, turn auto ripple on, hit delete, turn off auto ripple and do fades on both sides (I don't want to group all of them together for reasons I won't go into).
I just thought maybe there was a way to do what I was talking about...thanks again for your time my friends!
Randy

It's all pretty easy, so.....

I would add that you certainly can drag the edges of multiple grouped clips at once....As I said, all the rules are not clear, but I just created a group including two unrelated video clips on two tracks with a related audio clip on the third (related to the second track/clip). Dragging the edge of any of the 3 clips adjusts all 3, but initially when one clip was offset, dragging its edge did not effect the other two. As soon as dragging one of the other two aligned them with the offset clip, they all dragged together no matter which one you chose.

So, splitting at a certain point, then grouping all the clips on the edge you want to adjust should allow you to drag them together. The "group drag" seems to require that all edges be lined up to drag together.

To refine the rules a bit: Once I got the two lower clips' edges lined up with the upper clip's edge, they would all drag and resize together in both directions, including sizing the originally misaligned clip past its original edge point.......while, of course, not moving anything in time, only the size/edges.

I had noticed this behavior with a grouped audio and video clip that were from the same orignal recorded clip and had either been offset or where the audio and video came in at different points in time, even if properly synced. The grouping always maintains the sync relationship, but will not maintain the offset in start time. Edges are only adjusted together once they are lined up in time.

It is possible that this behavior can be adjusted somewhere in Preferences, but I have not been using the program long enough to have discocvered this yet.

"Grouped tracks" - yes certainly. In fact you can't do otherwise in that situation.

Not to be confused with 'Track Groups' though !

geoff

Randy. Reading just your last post, I certainly got lost in all of the preceding, try the following.

Select a loop region to indicate the area you want to remove. Make sure the loop region is active (highlighted) and select Edit/Cut (or hit Ctrl + X) or simply press delete - all highlighted is trimmed and deleted (with Auto Ripple on the events to the right will also be moved left to close the gap). If you select Edit/Trim (or hit Ctrl + T) it will remove all not highlighted parts.

One proviso, if any of the events belong to a Folder/Track Group, they are not included. I suppose that is intentional to not spring any surprises on tracks belonging to collapsed Folders and hence not visible. To include them you must select them along with the others. Hitting Ctrl + A will select all events (including hidden events in collapsed Folders).

With no events selected, all the non Folder tracks are cut or trimmed.

Note: If you click a track holding down the Ctrl key it will select/deselect the track without moving the cursor or turning off the highlight of the loop region.

Hope that helps.

Willem.

Thanks Willem,
Randy. Reading just your last post, I certainly got lost in all of the preceding, try the following.

Apparently I lost a lot of people (sorry people, really crappy day) but anyway, really feel like a goof now.
I must have tried your suggestion several times before and it only deleted one section of one track. I could have sworn I did it exactly as you described above but I just did it 3 times successfully (and now have no idea what I was doing wrong or different)...sheesh....thanks again everyone.

Perhaps this will help

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1421565/Vegas/Split.doc