Ctrl-Z any fix?

ScheffFrog wrote on 5/17/2013, 12:21 PM

I have just finished working with a customer on editing her video. We have done a tremendous amount of edits and many hours of work. And we were watching the video before we render it so we could make any final changes, when we discovered a lot of edits we had made have disappeared! When reviewing why, it was clear that the Ctrl-Z problem is still there and is causing the same grievous headache as it has been since V12 started.

Any editor knows that Ctrl-Z & Ctrl-Y are favored keyboard shortcuts to quickly undue or redo something you are editing. But right now, in Vegas 12, Ctrl-Z undoes more than the edit you just did. It's all so confusing and frustrating when the corrections to an edit you just did is easily returned to the former state by a simple Ctrl-Z command.

I cannot understand how something so simple cannot be fixed, especially after the recent updates. Is there another fix to this problem that maybe I have overseen or someone out there has discovered? If so, please pass it on to me.

I'm getting a terrible headache from the problem.

Ribbit

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NormanPCN wrote on 5/17/2013, 12:38 PM

I have not had any problems with Ctrl-Z, at least with the items I have done an undo on. I have had situations where I had to use the mouse to undo because the keyboard focus had some thing going on and Ctrl-Z did nothing.

Any specifics as to what to try get a multiple undo with a single Ctrl-Z?

Also, maybe the keyboard has a debounce issue with the Z key and you are getting multiple key events with a single press.

OldSmoke wrote on 5/17/2013, 12:46 PM

Are you using a Logitech keyboard, mouse or combination together with their SetPoint driver? If so, remove the SetPoint driver/software and use native ones... cured my problem.

Grazie wrote on 5/17/2013, 1:43 PM

Are you using any ASIO drivers?

G

ScheffFrog wrote on 5/17/2013, 2:15 PM

Hey G:

Yes, I have to use them in Sonar because of all the soft-synths I use in music production. Is that the problem? If so, why doesn't it effect all the other programs I use in conjunction to editing many forms of media.

Ribbit.

ScheffFrog wrote on 5/17/2013, 2:26 PM

Old Smoke,

Both my keyboard and mouse are Logitech. The mouse is wireless, the keyboard is not.

Forgive my stupidity. What do you mean by 'native ones', generic?

Ribbit

NormanPCN wrote on 5/17/2013, 2:43 PM

Same here. My keyboard is Logitech wired, and cordless mouse. I use the Setpoint drivers. Never had an issue in any program. Nothing I noticed at least. I recently upgraded Setpoint from two year old stuff to the current.

Jay M wrote on 5/17/2013, 4:37 PM

I have a different problem with undo...

sometimes Ctrl+z will open a dialog box asking when to put new recording.

I thought I hit the wrong key, so I clicked in the undo button, and the same thing happened.

Now I'll need to make sure it didn't also go back multiple steps.

~Jay

OldSmoke wrote on 5/17/2013, 8:40 PM

Yes, the Generic drivers that come with Windows. Just uninstall the Setpoint software and Windows will install its own drivers. I had similar issues and even screen redraw issues in other software with the Setpoint software. You lose the on screen info such as Caps Lock, Num Lock and so on but it still works fine otherwise.

ScheffFrog wrote on 5/18/2013, 5:09 AM

OldSmoke,

I did as you shared. Made sure the drivers were no longer installed, and Win8 did use a generic. However, this did not solve the issue with Ctrl-Z. I am still getting many more undos than the last error I made. I have uninstalled V12, made sure I have the latest updates, and still I cannot get this to stop.

Help!
Ribbit.

OldSmoke wrote on 5/18/2013, 6:56 AM

Have you tried a different keyboard just to rule out that it is actually a hardware issue? Uninstalling the Logitech drivers did it for me. Do you have a tablet too? Wacom drivers do make trouble sometimes too.

ushere wrote on 5/18/2013, 8:24 AM

interestingly i had shortcut keyboard problems with a clip board manager (ditto). appears it had it's own set of keyboard shortcuts that loaded automatically at sys start up.

took a while to realise it was the problem but turning off all shortcuts in it (don't really need them anyway) gave me back my vegas keystrokes....

ScheffFrog wrote on 5/18/2013, 6:50 PM

Well fellow peeps, I think I believe as another person wrote on another forum of Sony Vegas users; many of whom are experiencing the same problems, that Vegas coders have done something amiss. Where is Sherlock when you need him?! Respectfully, I did try all of the things listed here and some. I will continue to still chase wild notions of hope that something I will find will fix it only because I desperately need it back. Ctrl-Z is like my left arm. It just hangs there, but when you need it, it is truly handy! No pun intended.

So that's it for me, unless someone comes up with another idea. Thanks for all the input! It is appreciated.

Ribbit and good night.

Robert Johnston wrote on 5/22/2013, 1:26 AM

I can only suggest checking Preferences on the Internal tab for the field name "Create undos for fx parameter changes" to see if it is set to TRUE. What you describe makes it seem like the value is set to FALSE. In other words, changes you make to fx parameters are not being stored in the undo history, so when you press CTRL-Z, you won't necessarily undo your last change.

You have to hold down the shift key as you select Options > Preferences. Then click on the tab named "Internal." There's a place at the bottom of the Internal tab to search for partial or full field names. You can enter "undo" without the quotes to find the field.