Current V16 Upgrade Offer

karma17 wrote on 7/4/2018, 6:03 AM

I see that Magix is offering an early upgrade special for $249 that says if you buy 15 now, then you can upgrade to the 16 Bundle as well. My question is: What is in the bundle? It is hard to make a move when it isn't exactly clear what you're getting.

Any ideas?

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Dexcon wrote on 7/4/2018, 6:57 AM

If you go to Magix Vegas Pro's US website, check out the Upgrade prices for VP Edit, VP and VP Suite - they all have get 15 and 16 offers for a good price. It would be expected that Edit is VP16 alone, but what comes with VP16 and VP16 Suite is not revealed - so a bit of a gamble there.

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Mindmatter wrote on 7/4/2018, 9:20 AM

I just bought 15 a month ago...! 😡

Again no grace period? This really starts to get annoying, same thing happened to me when I bought 14.

Can't help feeling seriously screwed over by this for paying double.

 

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Kinvermark wrote on 7/4/2018, 12:57 PM

That's unfortunate, but consider you (probably) paid a low upgrade fee, and (hopefully) it came with some extra software that isn't being offered in the current deal, and of course you will have had 3 months worth of usage before v16 comes out. Maybe some small consolation.

The old software upgrade system typically had a "grace period" and didn't happen as frequently, but also typically cost more. Clearly this not how Magix organize things commercially, so that is something to keep in mind going forward. The upgrade cycle seems to be annual, with late summer releases.

 

simon-bauer wrote on 7/4/2018, 1:10 PM

They need to fix version 15 first, I wouldn't trust them to release a stable product just yet

Kinvermark wrote on 7/4/2018, 1:26 PM

Typically, the first release of a new version has a bunch of problems that get sorted out in the first couple of maintenance releases. But presumably at some point the underlying technology "engines" have had a refit and this will no longer hold true. Keep in mind that making general statements about Vegas' reliability is inaccurate: some have stability issues while many do not. It is really very system specific.

Mindmatter wrote on 7/4/2018, 3:30 PM

hmm I don't really consider 250$ a low upgrade fee...especially when I'll have to shell out another 250$ fir V16!

and with 14, I had already bought NB Titler pro elite, so bad deal again for me.

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Peter-Riding wrote on 7/4/2018, 5:28 PM

I bought 15 VP (not Edit or Suite) a couple of days ago on a special time-limited offer which includes a free 16 when it arrives at the end of August. This was an upgrade from 13. It cost me £209.00 UK£ including all taxes. I am in the UK so it may be that US and other purchasers get different deals, I don't know.

In addition to 15 / 16 I received an upgrade to DVD Architect Pro 7. Previously I have been using DVDAP 6.

Also the deal included for free:

NewBlue FX Filters 5 Ultimate (GB)

HitFilm Movie Essentials (GB)

as described in the email and PDF invoice. I've installed and activated them but don't have a use for them at present.

I'm unclear whether the last two items will be "free" with 16 or only with 15.

16 recons to have a very decent stabilisation so I may use that instead of my Mercalli 4 SAL.

AVsupport wrote on 7/4/2018, 6:11 PM

bundles are always a gamble, because there's no guarantee that you bundled 3rd party products will work with a future version of VP. That said, it is perhaps a nice way to work out if you like the products (consider it as a useable trial). I wished Magix would make their own 'Add-on Modules' and bundle those instead. This could elimi ate some compatibility and the bespoke proliferation issues I've seen in the past...

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FPP wrote on 7/5/2018, 1:13 PM

I really want to support Vegas Pro... I’ve been slowly but surely learning how to use it proficiently and achieving the kind of “Professional” results that I can derive an income from. But every since I started using this software at (v11Pro) and now at 15 Pro15 Suite, I’ve noticed one constant behavior.. That is, the need to spend a lot of valuable time trying to figure out another functional problem with the software that impedes many of the projects that I try to complete..

I have to say though... If this forum wasn’t around, I would never have learned what I’ve learned thus far.

I feel that no matter how loyal the customer base is for Vegas Pro, profit will prevail and it will always be a gamble when we pay for a new release.

I just upgraded to version 15 Pro Suite $350.00 (usd) less than a month ago and no offer of version 16 .🙁

The main reason I upgraded from versions 12/13 pro was the fact that they both started crashing for no reason that I can tell but the new Magix ad for upgrading always seem to take over my system.

Just can’t trust anybody anymore..

Version 15 Pro Suite crashes if my system is online..

Magix could’ve at least taken me to a movie and bought me dinner before this frustrating experience.

I probably will figure out how to make the software work properly, sooner or later, but I don’t have enough confidence to put an important project on it YET!

dream wrote on 7/6/2018, 12:47 AM

I really want to support Vegas Pro... I’ve been slowly but surely learning how to use it proficiently and achieving the kind of “Professional” results that I can derive an income from. But every since I started using this software at (v11Pro) and now at 15 Pro15 Suite, I’ve noticed one constant behavior.. That is, the need to spend a lot of valuable time trying to figure out another functional problem with the software that impedes many of the projects that I try to complete..

I have to say though... If this forum wasn’t around, I would never have learned what I’ve learned thus far.

I feel that no matter how loyal the customer base is for Vegas Pro, profit will prevail and it will always be a gamble when we pay for a new release.

I just upgraded to version 15 Pro Suite $350.00 (usd) less than a month ago and no offer of version 16 .🙁

The main reason I upgraded from versions 12/13 pro was the fact that they both started crashing for no reason that I can tell but the new Magix ad for upgrading always seem to take over my system.

Just can’t trust anybody anymore..

Version 15 Pro Suite crashes if my system is online..

Magix could’ve at least taken me to a movie and bought me dinner before this frustrating experience.

I probably will figure out how to make the software work properly, sooner or later, but I don’t have enough confidence to put an important project on it YET!

i know that feel

dream wrote on 7/6/2018, 12:51 AM

I just bought 15 a month ago...! 😡

Again no grace period? This really starts to get annoying, same thing happened to me when I bought 14.

Can't help feeling seriously screwed over by this for paying double.

 

then why dont you buy when it comes out ,in sept 2017

and you will but vp16 in june 2019 when you know vp17 will come out on aug 2019

its like buying iphone every year ,you know it will updated ,and still you buy it

karma17 wrote on 7/6/2018, 1:59 AM

Yeah, I guess I'll just wait to see what they offer when the official announcement is made. It just isn't clear what you get with the "bundle." On the website, the current upgrade to the Suite is $349, so I'm assuming that perhaps they might offer a chance to do the Suite upgrade for a little less than that, maybe $249 or $299. The way this all seems to be working out is that if you have to pay to upgrade $250 per year, that's $20 bucks per month, which is exactly what the subscription cost to Premiere Pro is. However, with Vegas, you can still own the license and use until whenever. I notice Magix also seems to be experimenting with a Vegas Pro 365 subscription for $17 a month. I sure hope they just keep it optional and don't go to the cloud like Adobe did. When Sony Catalyst Production Suite first came out, I bought it, but not much longer, they switched to a subscription service and said they would no longer provide any end-of-life support or anything for the owners. The problem was the software was buggy as hell and never even worked right. That whole experience left me feeling bad about Sony. Any way, it seems to be a new day with Magix and I sure hope they keep the perpetual license model and don't go sub service.

Cliff Etzel wrote on 7/6/2018, 4:04 PM

I really want to support Vegas Pro... I’ve been slowly but surely learning how to use it proficiently and achieving the kind of “Professional” results that I can derive an income from. But every since I started using this software at (v11Pro) and now at 15 Pro15 Suite, I’ve noticed one constant behavior.. That is, the need to spend a lot of valuable time trying to figure out another functional problem with the software that impedes many of the projects that I try to complete..

I have to say though... If this forum wasn’t around, I would never have learned what I’ve learned thus far.

I feel that no matter how loyal the customer base is for Vegas Pro, profit will prevail and it will always be a gamble when we pay for a new release.

I just upgraded to version 15 Pro Suite $350.00 (usd) less than a month ago and no offer of version 16 .🙁

The main reason I upgraded from versions 12/13 pro was the fact that they both started crashing for no reason that I can tell but the new Magix ad for upgrading always seem to take over my system.

Just can’t trust anybody anymore..

Version 15 Pro Suite crashes if my system is online..

Magix could’ve at least taken me to a movie and bought me dinner before this frustrating experience.

I probably will figure out how to make the software work properly, sooner or later, but I don’t have enough confidence to put an important project on it YET!

When MAGIX released Vegas 15 v361, I tested along side Premiere CS6 (WAS my default NLE) and Resolve 14. What I discovered is all the issues I had with Vegas up until v361 disappeared. I was ticked off with Adobe in general and Resolve has serious hardware requirements that my Ultrabook with an Intel iGPU was not able to use. MAGIX cured what ailed me in my video post work and it has now become my only NLE. My work doesn't require what Resolve brings to the table and the ability to use it on my ultrabook when I need to edit while traveling is a major bonus for me. I've just completed 2 large projects and Vegas didn't let me down - albeit I was holding my breath at times wondering if I was going to need to revert back to Premiere - thankfully I didn't.

I'll probably wait until Vegas 16 is vetted before I consider it - and it will depend on what it brings to the table over Vegas 15

Trensharo wrote on 7/6/2018, 6:29 PM

Premiere CS6 is like 6 years old. Only people here will take what you write about any comparisons between it and the latest version[s] of VEGAS Pro seriously.

Premiere Pro CC will edit 4K on a machine with a 1050[Ti], offering full Hardware Acceleration Playback and Double-GPU Rendering (using BOTH CUDA and QSV for H.264 (and HEVC on macOS)). It supports more CODECs. Has a better Proxy Workflow. Better performance. Better Tooling.

There is no comparison between Premiere Pro CS6 and Premiere Pro CC. Premiere Pro upgrades are not Service Pack-level upgrades like VEGAS Pro. They are substantial.

If you are coming from CS6, and have spent little to no time with Premiere Pro CC - especially now, in 2018... you are completely out of touch with how these products compare.

Resolve has monster system requirements. I wouldn't even bother unless you have a 6-8+ Core Machine and a GTX 1080[Ti], assuming you want to do serious work with it.

Anyone with an Ultrabook and Intel Graphics shouldn't expect to do much serious work.

VEGAS Pro has bad CPU utilization and basically no GPU requirements. Yes, it will run decently (like any Win32 Application) on an Ultrabook with an iGPU, but it's badly optimized and will not give you the performance for projects of moderate complexity that Premiere Pro CC or even Resolve will on a budget gaming laptop.

There is no comparison. I understand that this is a MAGIX/VEGAS Forum, and expect people to have positive thoughts towards the software, on average...

But, you're taking it so stupendous levels.