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John_Cline wrote on 4/22/2009, 3:58 PM
A lot of people edit in dark rooms and have complained that the UI was too bright. Now they can easily do something about it. For those that like the UI the was it was, they can have it their way, too.

I was reading some NAB blog yesterday in which they referred to the darker Vegas UI scheme as "more professional." Since when does the shading of a UI make it "more professional?" It probably would have been more accurate to say it is more "Avid-like."
winrockpost wrote on 4/22/2009, 4:09 PM
people here have been asking for it for years,, and I gotta admit I'll be glad to darken it a bit,, if I like the trial and upgrade
FuTz wrote on 4/22/2009, 4:10 PM
Aaaaanyway, just switch your monitor prefs to "the old way", leaving the XP theme and you can put the color ou want.
BUT, that's kind of an improvement...
busterkeaton wrote on 4/22/2009, 4:13 PM
There were a lot of complaints about the colors of the old UI. I turned down tint in settings and set my XP colors to be dark grey, so it didn't bother me.

A dark grey UI is standard on many high-end color grading tools. The color of the background when you are color-grading matters because your eye adapts over time. So using a dark grey UI helps keep the colors looking true. It's not an issue for an audio guy, but for someone who color corrects all day long in Vegas it does matter.

Here's a Da Vinci R4K. Supposed to do real time color correction on multiple streams of 4K material. Notice there's no price on that page? I think it runs 7 figures.
http://www.davsys.com/4k2.html
JJKizak wrote on 4/22/2009, 4:29 PM
I kind of like the idea of a darker UI. Hell, I liked everything else they did since day one too.
JJK
rmack350 wrote on 4/22/2009, 6:38 PM
Jeeze Cliff, where've ya been.

No matter what color things are, 33% of Vegas users want it to be something else.

Personally, I kind of like the Hello Kitty colors but the Batz Maru background will be welcome too. That way when I've got 20 programs open I'll be able to tell real quickly which windows are part of Vegas.

Seriously, many people wanted the darker chrome on Vegas and it was an aesthetic obstacle to users of other NLEs. Also, the gesture shows that SCS is actually interested in courting those people (as were the recent improvements to the trimmer). I think there's been a management shake-up on the Vegas team.

Rob Mack
blink3times wrote on 4/22/2009, 7:11 PM
"Is this a legitimate "improvement"? (Let's see if we can rationalize it into one)"

People asked for it, so Sony did it....is that perhaps rational enough for you? Maybe you want to argue how they shouldn't have listened to the customers? Don't worry Cliff... I have faith in you... I just know that if you look at that upgrade list Loooooong enough, you'll find SOMETHING legitimate to complain about.
TheHappyFriar wrote on 4/22/2009, 7:51 PM
I'd find it annoying it's a default, but change once & forget about it. You should see my blender screen: almost like someone turned on the lights in the UI. :D

kentwolf wrote on 4/22/2009, 8:10 PM
>>...I kind of like the Hello Kitty colors...

I was *just* wondering if anyone here remembered that. :)
cliff_622 wrote on 4/22/2009, 9:42 PM

People asked for it, so Sony did it....is that perhaps rational enough for you? Maybe you want to argue how they shouldn't have listened to the customers? Don't worry Cliff... I have faith in you... I just know that if you look at that upgrade list Loooooong enough, you'll find SOMETHING legitimate to complain about.
Message last edited on 4/22/2009 10:14:04 PM, by blink3times.
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"Is this a legitimate "improvement"? (Let's see if we can rationalize it into one)"
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Excellent! We did it! (just like I knew we could!)

I can't wait to see the new colors. (oh,..and the bug fix list in the release notes.....that's what I'm really paying for.)

I'm not complaining Blink! : - )

CT
AtomicGreymon wrote on 4/22/2009, 9:52 PM
Is this a legitimate "improvement"? (Let's see if we can rationalize it into one)

Given the number of posts I've seen on these forums since I first started coming here that've been complaining about the "outdated" and "amateur" looking GUI in Vegas, I think it's perfectly legitimate for SCS to list it as an improvement.

It seems SCS can't win either way, though... people will complain whether they do something or not. I say wait 'til the damn program is released before rendering your opinions on it. Everyone might be entitled to their own opinions, but I hope people don't expect their opinions to get any respect or carry any weight when they're given out with no actual experience with the software.

Personally, I'm really liking the new look of the GUI. While I never complained about the current one, I do think it resembles software from the Windows 3.1 era a little too closely.
blink3times wrote on 4/22/2009, 10:03 PM
"It seems SCS can't win either way, though... people will complain whether they do something or not."

Yup.

I always new it was possible to set up and have pre-orders on something... but pre-complaints HAS to be the height of stupidity. I do note however that it seems to be the same small crowd over and over again.
rmack350 wrote on 4/22/2009, 10:04 PM
Cliff, I just looked at the release notes for VP8 and V7. It doesn't look to me like bugfixes are ever talked about in the initial release notes. If they follow the same pattern, the VP9 release notes will not talk about bug fixes from VP8 to VP9.

Rob Mack
TheHappyFriar wrote on 4/23/2009, 6:53 AM
does this mean the price of vegas will triple after preorder? To address people's complaints it to cheap to be pro software?? :/
lynn1102 wrote on 4/23/2009, 5:31 PM
I have several other programs that I use and they have also gone to the darker colors when they issue upgrades. I will admit that the first one was a shock, as I wasn't expecting it. It didn't take more than a few minutes to adjust to the new colors. I also have the option of returning to the original or changing the scheme.

Lynn
jazzmaster wrote on 4/23/2009, 6:40 PM
A few years ago, if I remember rightly, Spot put out some GUI color combinations that we could use ourselves to transform our GUI into a darker palette. I'm still using mine, but I forgot how to do it. (yes, age!) Does anyone remember that or what the drill was?
Cheno wrote on 4/23/2009, 7:09 PM
http://www.sundancemediagroup.com/articles/customizing_Sony_Vegas.htm

cheno
blink3times wrote on 4/23/2009, 7:11 PM
Actually Jazz...

If you dig up "3D OBJECTS" and change its color (in advanced color and appearance in both xp and vista) you will change the Vegas UI color. Bear in mind though that this color change is global will also affect the color of your OS and some of your other apps. I for example have a darker gray set and it affects not only vegas but my office word, outlook, excel (and anything else that depends on the 3D OBJECTS color)
Tomsde wrote on 4/24/2009, 5:31 AM
Gray is the interface color of choice for many graphics programs as well. 3D applications have gone gray long before this, Adobe's interfaces are gray, and Corel Painter 11 (just released) has adopted a more gray color scheme. Gray is the color dejur for the time being at least. Probably in in a few years a new color will take it's place like chartruse or something, claiming less eye strain, truer colors, etc. Actually I don't know what people are complaining about, especially since you can switch it back to the "old" look easily.

I have always felt that Vegas has a definite Windows '98 look, by the style of the windows and dialogue boxes, etc. This hasn't bothered me though, I think it's more important what the software actually does compared to what it looks like.