Keep looking at Final Cut Pro and Adobe, and go away

It must be all that ease-of-use, intuitive crap that the Vegas programmers keep dumping on us poor Vegas addicts (a lot of whom are Premiere converts...)

I don't know about you Zippy, but I use Vegas to edit with, not to just stare at and say it looks bad. But I suppose if you must have a shiny flashy interface then go download WindowBlinds or StyleXP and then you can get some new "Skins" that will customize windows and your Vegas interface so it's more shiny and sparkly and you can sit in your chair and stare at it all day and even invite some friends to come over and look at it, we all know you have no editing jobs to do anyways :)

I don't want a "pretty" interface.

I want one that works.

Doesn't crash.

Is intuitive to use.

Vegas meets all these requirements.

The notion that video editing is a process that merits a visually slick interface is a mistake.

SoFo's attention to the things that matter (products works, doesn't crash, easy to use, feature rich, etc.) shows that they're on the right track.

I just hope it stays that way now that Sony owns the product.

David

Perhaps that is why reviewers say that Final Cut Prop has such a steep learning curve before you can do anything in it. Gimmy my Vegas.

Besides, if you're interested in looks, Vegas looks clean and <professional> and that counts for a lot. Functionality is king with Vegas.

Shiny, 3D, etc = toys. Go play.

Ben

You must be kicking yourself silly for having bought Vegas!!
What kind of a person spends hundreds of dollars on a product that he can only find faults with? Either that or you've got a cracked copy.
Sony reps, please don't post confirming he's a bonafide owner of Vegas...I don't think my ribs could take it I'd be laughing so hard!!!
If you're a troll sent here by the competition, they better find someone else to replace you; you're doing a LOUSY job of having us regret our purchases.
I'm not going to put you on my IGNORE list, you're just too damn funny! Also, I'm hoping your posts mature as you hit puberty.

M

That was your lamest flame-bait yet.
Get real. The Vegas interface is one of its outstanding features.
You know it, I know it, we all know it.

C'mon Zippy, pick it up. You're slipping. Are you starting to run out of ideas?

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He has sucked you all in again... just ignore him he might go away...


Flack

>IT LOOKS DATED!!<

YOUR"RE RIGHT! I don't know why I didn't notice it before. It's kind of like it was made in the 1950s.

I am switching immediately to Priemiere!
'Bye everyone!


Gary

Threads about the look and feel of Vegas have come up before. Marty Hedler has some tips and ideas about this on his website.

One thing about Vegas is that it's look is consistent with the entire product line. That means that any major facelift will come only when the whole line upgrades.

The general look of Vegas is fine for most users, I think. However, some people want custom color schemes and there's good reason for that. It would be nice if your client, who may notice nothing else, notices that your NLE looks unique. The idea is that if your tools look creative then you must be creative too.

But this is really gilding the lily. It would be more useful to put effort into functionality-and there are a few areas where the look of the interface could be changed to inprove the functionality.

For instance:
-The track color selector could actually make the track that color.
-Not every filter control needs to be a slider. Soometimes a slider isn't really very informative.
-Filter and effect controls could have more visual feedback to them.
-Tear-off windows could allow other tear-offs to dock with them, creating tabbed floating windows
-Timeline windows could tear off, leaving just a menu bar.
-Status bar could give more feedback as you work, telling you the name of the clip, # of takes in event, # of events under cursor, whether the event is part of a group, etc...
-Timeline really could use a playback head

But really, Vegas is very clean and easy to work with. I wouldn't want to change the look. Just enhance it.

Rob Mack

I responded to Zippy's post (instead of ignoring it as is everyone's wont) because he raises a valid point, and I want Sony/SoFo to know where I stand on the issue.

Should Vegas' interface be changed to make if visually more marketable?

I think this is a valid consideration because I imagine their are some folks at Sony who will say, "Yeah, it works great, but does it look cool?" I would think that convincing people that appearance isn't the primary objective for a product like Vegas is a battle SoFo developers have had to fight continually -- because marketing generally reduces to appearance.

I believe the primary objectives should be reliability, functionality, ease of use, etc. Appearance choices should flow out of these considerations.

What I have seen in other editors, typically, is appearance driving design and functionality -- you get a visually slick interface that gets in the way of editing.

The real trick is to avoid the temptation to make the product more "marketable" by putting looks first and to maintain the stance that functionality should be the primary goal. That's the high road. And I praise the Vegas team for taking it.

David

Zippy you miscreant---go over to Marty Helders website and copy down his instructions as to how one makes Vegas look like Avid. Then entertain each paramater--Then sit in front of your CRT and imagine you are a sucessful Avid editor who could possibly win an Academy Award on the project you are working on.

I sincerely hope that the Sony/SoFo folks DON'T waste any time on things that don't, in fact, make Vegas a better more usable product. No matter what clothes [interface] you put on a pig [Premiere] ... it's still a pig.

For tools I like clean and efficient. Let's save the glitz and glamour for our respective creations. Marketing should be based on what the product offers in value of features and productivity; not what it looks like.

Hell ... if everyone thought like Zippy, they'd be dumping their respective spouses for *less dated* models....

I RUB STIX! STILL NO GET FIRE!

WHY STIX LOOK SO BAD!

I just had to open my favorite program on earth once again to see how "dated" it looked. All I can see is "functionality", incredible, unsurpassable functionality. Save the "cool" interface for Video Factory (or whatever they call it now) -- that's the program for amateurs who want to impress their friends with cuts and a few overlaid titles and inappropriate use of special effects. (Don't get me wrong -- it's also the program for people who want to do great editing for a bargain!) For professionals Vegas is perfect -- nothing gets in the way -- only what's needed is loaded into memory, not a whole bunch of bmps and jpegs to make it "look" cooler.

And, yep, Zippy, the troll has sucked me in too! I'm ashamed of myself!

Pease leave Vegas the way it is! The interface unobtrusive, highly functional, and easy on the eyes.

Absolutely!

However, since there are more people in the world than you and I, and some of them might want to skin vegas, I can't see any reason not to let them.

Except that it diverts Vegas development from more important things.

There are some things that people DO like. Remapping or customizing keyboard shortcuts is one. Having user profiles that remember the window positions on a per user basis is another.

I think a lot of people here assume that any change to Vegas means a loss of something else. That's not really the case. Don't worry so much!

I trust the Vegas development team to look at ideas and use whatever fits in to the bigger picture. Often, the users on the forum are grousing about little things and not seeing that bigger picture.

So, again, don't worry so much. No one here is going to remake the interface.

Rob Mack

ROFLOL!

Zippy,

You are astonishingly annoying.

I work on an Avid system all the time (usually at gunpoint) and I don't care for the look and feel of its interface AT ALL. Give me Vegas any day.

John

People it's simple if everybody would not post a single reply, this Troll would go away! He's here simply to get reaction from people simple as that! OOPS! I posted dooh!