I think this is Zippy's funniest post yet.

Yeah BK - Score? 9/10 maybe? - Mind you the one earlier in September - I classify these as amongst his most early works - and very collectable too! Saw one go to auction the over day at NorthBies in London, fetched good money! - Ran a Picasso wayyy out of town . .. .

I'm just waiting for copycats. Those people who just don't appreciate the real masterly hand of ZG. I think it is undefencable, people copying his masterpieces!

But, I'm sure, as the originals become way beyond the normal Corporate buyers budgets for works of art, these "legitimate" copies will in turn start to deliver a good return on investment , too.

No . .ZG has produced a much needed boost to what is a flagging fine art investment portfolio . . I'm thinking of selling ALL my ENRON stock and buying as many of the orginal ZG masterpieces as I can lay my hands on.

. . keep this on the quiet BK . . don't tell anyyone, or everybody will be jumping on the bandwagon . . teh! Could totally ruin the market . .y'know what happens as soon as somone gets wind of the possibilities, the bottom will drop outta the market.

Personally, like Picasso, I hope the master - ZG - goes on producing way way into to his/her nineties - and beyond!

Grazie

Now let me guess ZG has shot 60i and is converting to24p.

How many NLEs will do that?

VV, maybe FCP....

Off course he good buy one of those professional boxes that do it in real time. Me I'll keep the house and let VV take its time doing it.

Yeah, its a good thing you're not using AE/Magic Bullet to do that 24p render. It would probably take 10 days instead of 10 hours. Get with the program Zip.

ZipPee has a client? They must be pretty desparate.

Hi zippYGaloo

I know this is off topic but I was wondering what editing program you consider to be the best ?

I agree rendering times can be pretty horrendous I suppose we will have to wait for better / faster processors.

You could always split the work up and render on a few computers but I see your using AC3 Although you could still render the picture and do the sound after. Not ideal I know but if you have clients who want jobs done quick.......

I must admit I sometimes get impatient waiting to see how work turns out but because its only a hobby for me its more.... excitement.... than frustration.

I think this problem all comes down to Client / Producer realtionship and nothing to do with Vegas. You shouldn't promise your client something that you can't deliver, then you get into situations like these. It's best to sit down with your client, figure out exactly what he needs, make an educated guess on how long it will take, then double that time and tell them that is how long it will take to finish the project. If that is not enought time for the client, then see if you can figure out a way to do it faster, and if you can't then you just need to tell the client that you simply cannot complete the project in the time allowed.

Zipp

oops I REALISE now you meant the long time it takes with the dvd maker.

If clients want to see the work on DVD why not just use a DVD recorder like the Pioneer 7000 and record straight from Vegas OK you wont get the fancy menu but I reckon you get a better picture.

OK nO GOOD because your client wants a demo of AC3 And you cant do it this way.

Solution;

Just do five minutes as an example OR have a demo DVD always on hand of what its going to be like.

You never answered my question which is I just wanted to know what editing system you think is best !?????

<<You never answered my question which is I just wanted to know what editing system you think is best !????? >>

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Well I never knew zipps was a troll. Not a very good one then is he. I thought a failing troll new when to quit game over. Then come back as someone else in Fact it wouldent surprise me if zipp was someone high up on the forum

Avin a LAUGH

Because no one seems to press there ignore button AND he is entertaining.

All I was trying to do was SEE what zipp might say If he is a Trolly he might give the game away of course we all know that there is nothing at vegas price point that even comes close and that is a FFFAAACCCT..

I've generally avoided the impulse to reply to Zippy and his ilk based on the lessons of my experience. However, in this case I'll make a rare exception for reasons I do not yet fully understand.

Zippy, your posts are full of both the brilliance and insecurity that only lack of experience can cause. Your questions are brilliant, your conclusions are stupid.

What would it be like for you if you shut your mouth, read, and listen just for a while. Just long enough to learn the basics, eh?

And then when you finally understand the history, state, and future of NLE well enough to make intelligent comments, go right ahead and do so. Someday, they will be good ones.

In the meantime, feel comfortable to ask all the questions you want; remember, I said they were good ones too, ok?

Could you put that monster ego in the back pocket of the youngster you are long enough to learn a few things? 'nough said.

my

I got a solution for you that will save time:

Buy more memory , the MOST you can afford.
Do a Dynamic RAM preview of all your project.
Put your camera in front of your computer screen an use a shutter to avoid flicking. Frame the preview window.
Start your camera.
Start your preview. When project's over, STOP your camera.

Here you go, you got it on tape...

shoo-fly!!

Have you noticed that she posts something silly then observes all of us waste time responding? Clever girl as ever was.

to be fair on zippy (hey, i'm new, gimme a break) ;)
i've found that multiple layered projects do take exponentially longer to encode, even when using a relative fast codec like mjpeg. Rendering to mpeg2 appears to increase the time once more. It's partly to do with pushing the package (hey, it lets you, so why not?), and partly not understanding the best way to push it. Personally where possible i pre-render clips with multiple effects on because it saves time, but there's always the case where it's infeasible to pre-render every part of your project. Having said that i still don't get why the mpeg2 codec is so damn slow, to the point where it proved 10-12 times slower than tmpeg for the same encode.

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