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Jessariah67 wrote on 10/26/2003, 4:29 PM
If you run a duplicated track, it will spike your Master bus, but it will be "normal" level in each of your separate cards.

Why are you needing to do this?
ZippyGaloo wrote on 10/26/2003, 4:41 PM
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Jessariah67 wrote on 10/26/2003, 6:58 PM
The reason I ask "why" is because, depending on your application, "doubling" your audio track may or may not effect your final render. If you just want to "monitor" over two sources, then double your track and simply mute one of them before you render. If you are actually "using" both in your final, then you'll have to adjust the levels -- of course, if you want to split the output of a single track, I'm assuming that you wouldn't tweak one of the "doubled" tracks independent of the other.

If you are wanting to "listen" over two different sources, you may try rigging your system via the hardware -- come out of the computer and actually split the signal from there.

There are other scenarios you could come up with, which is why if you tell us "why" you want to do this, it would alter the recommendations people would give you.

HTH
MJhig wrote on 10/26/2003, 7:27 PM
To help you with spiking busses etc. you will have to learn to use a compressor as a compressor and as a limiter. Check out sites like SOUND ON SOUND and ProRec, I used to recommend Studio Covers that had every topic covered but they no longer exist apparently.

When you "duplicate" a track in Vegas, it's just that, duplicated in every way, you will however be increasing the level significantly in the bus they are assigned to.


"In other words I want to send that one audio track OUT to two different sound cards"

In the Vegas Mixer window, "Insert Bus" assign it's output to any you have.

You can either assign the track to any bus you have set up using the output button to the right of the record button in the track header or you can send any portion of the track's signal to any bus using the multi-purpose fader by choosing the output you want to affect by clicking on where it says "Pan" and choosing the output in the dropdown menu then adjusting the "what used to be" pan fader.

MJ
ZippyGaloo wrote on 10/26/2003, 7:31 PM
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ZippyGaloo wrote on 10/26/2003, 7:38 PM
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MJhig wrote on 10/26/2003, 8:12 PM
That was part of the answer for this question you asked >>>>>"In other words I want to send that one audio track OUT to two different sound cards"<<<<<<<

It is one of the ways to route the audio signal of a track to a bus which in turn can be routed to different soundcards. Mono has nothing to do with this. Do a search in the Help file for "Audio Track Controls", "Routing Tracks to an Assignable Effects Chain" and "Assigning Tracks to Busses".

As for your next post about all the routing between soundcards and the Delta Omni and monitoring for recording, there are so many ways to do that it would be far beyond the scope of a forum to list. I do this with an external mixer although I have similar cards (Creative Ensoniq for system and Delta 2496 for recording). I suggest you learn all you can about the Omni, Vegas' routing abilities and experiment. You setup seems as though it will involve "Input Monitoring" so spend some time in the Help file there also.


These questions cannot be answered with step 1, step 2, step 3 type answers with all the variables you are introducing.

MJ
ZippyGaloo wrote on 10/26/2003, 8:19 PM
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MJhig wrote on 10/26/2003, 8:34 PM
Exactly, this is what I've been trying to tell you how to do.

Here do this....

In an audio track's header click the main output button (to the right or the record button) select Master (probably already is), set the output in the Master bus to one of your soundcards.

Now just above the Master bus there is a button "Insert Bus", click it, assign it's output to your other soundcard.

Now go back to the track and click on where it says "Pan", a dropdown menu will appear, click on "Bus A", the "Pan" fader now controls how much of that track's signal goes to "Bus A".

Experiment with the main track fader and the "multipurpose" fader for an appropriate mix. In general it's best to leave the bus faders at 0 dB.

MJ
ZippyGaloo wrote on 10/26/2003, 9:48 PM
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MJhig wrote on 10/26/2003, 10:26 PM
It will not affect your final output what so ever. Is it a bug? Well that's subjective. Is this the way "standard" mixers function? No, but there are work arounds such as muting the bus. Do the majority of Vegas audio users and myself prefer it this way? No.

This is well known and has been heavily discussed in the Vegas Audio Topics forum and requests for a solution included in the "next version" threads.

The point being you can accomplish what you need with no ill effects other than a little unorthodox monitoring.

MJ
ZippyGaloo wrote on 10/26/2003, 10:37 PM
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Randy Brown wrote on 10/27/2003, 9:05 AM
Thanks MJ, I learned something hear too...BTW, Zippy says thanks too, right Zip?
Randy
SonyEPM wrote on 10/27/2003, 9:50 AM
Not to slight anybody in the video forum, but I'd suggest you ask the deeper audio-centric questions in the Vegas audio forum:

http://mediasoftware.sonypictures.com/forums/ShowTopics.asp?ForumID=19

Delta, ASIO, noise reduction, routing, driver troubleshooting...its all been covered there, and new questions are typically answered quickly and in depth. You gotta ask nice of course...