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PeterWright wrote on 2/8/2004, 12:32 AM
Saving Regions within Clips enables you to:

- Identify potentially usable footage and give it a name meaningful to your project.

- Be able to instantly find that piece of footage at any time, and drag it to the timeline or reopen in the Trimmer.

These Regions are part of a specific media clip, so you can only find them by clicking on that clip in the Vegas Explorer.

You cannot see a list of all available Regions at once, only every Region that forms part of a particular clip.

But, if you can’t find a Region under a specific Clip, you know it must be part of one of the others.

Why do we use regions? To save time - I have a project with 7 hours of footage - I have labelled every region I want and now I can find what I want in seconds.
Grazie wrote on 2/8/2004, 12:42 AM
Peter - Yes, I've dabbled with Regions. And yes, Regions are neat. However I've found "NOT" having a "global" list of Regions . .well a bit deafting the object of doing the Region creation in the first place. When you say you can then locate what you want - specific Regions - in seconds, I'd like to understand how you go about this.

Shame we can't have a Vegas window, similar to the Media Window, that ONLY show the regions we've created. Good idea? Ho .. then maybe the option to place these egions into . . well Region Bins . .this would be a neat way to organise and make the business of selection that much easier .. However, for now could you please explain how you make the management of Regions so quick? I'd like that - yeah?

TIA - Grazie
PeterWright wrote on 2/8/2004, 1:03 AM
Hi Grazie (Congrats on the exhibition piece, by the way!)

Using my 7 hour project as an example - each of the seven hours is a tape recorded at a particular place and time. I name the one hour clip to help identify this - e.g. "Bridget interview Oct 01"

Now, when, say, I"m looking for the bit where Bridget talked about meeting her father, I click the Bridget Clip in Explorer, and there are all the regions listed - I find the Region named "Meeting Father" and drag it to the timeline.. Done.

I just did this and timed it - four seconds. Now I need a rest ......

Grazie wrote on 2/8/2004, 1:22 AM
Thanks - So for you the "Bridget" interview is in itself a pre-selection. And I'm presuming that the "whole" interview is one long uninterrupted clip . . .this would make sense for interviews . .Yeah understood.

Grazie
PeterWright wrote on 2/8/2004, 1:56 AM
Yes, this particular interview did fill a tape - you know how Bridget goes on ....

but, sometimes a Tape may contain a mixture of interviews and support footage. Here, I try and give the tape/clip a name refelcting this, maybe "Lake Kerry & Footage", and again it comes down to knowing which bit is on each tape so you can find the Region you're after.

If memory occasionally fails, as it does ....... I think ........then a quick click of each Clip in Explorer will remind me what's on the tape, or I can open the whole hour in the Trimmer and scrub through to refresh the old cells ....

But, I agree that an improvement in bin management generally will be most welcome ....
Grazie wrote on 2/8/2004, 2:00 AM
LOL - " If memory occasionally fails, as it does ....... I think ........then " . . .I think I know what you mean . . HAH!

But yes, Vegas is "almost" there with clip management . . but stubbornly remains tantalizingly just out of our grasp . . . silly . ..

Grazie
FuTz wrote on 2/8/2004, 8:18 AM

I never used regions a lot simply because what I'd like is that when I make one, I'd like it to be added as another clip. Don't get it wrong though, it doesn't have to *render* a new one (and increase load on drive), just create a "virtual" one represented by a new thumbnail (another Zippy's itch...) plus auto rename, like:
Clip 001=original clip
Clip 001r001=original clip, region 1.

Of course you could rename it... and choose the frame you want as a thumbnail if you wanna lose 3 extra days/project at doing it (or for VJs who'd like to use Vegas, NOW that would be logical)...
In the Explorer, the names (or titles) of the regions could appear in green, too, so to "fit" the original concept (the regions marks are green ain't they?).

Now, if what I just said can already be done in some way in Vegas, pleeeeease explain it to me!!!
Liam_Vegas wrote on 2/8/2004, 10:29 AM
One way to do this would be for vegas to support a media "shortcut" file. A bit like the shortcuts you can create within windows but instead of pointing to a physical file these shortcuts point to a specific region within an AVI (or other file). They could also contain some extended data within them for comments/project notes etc etc.

These media shortcut files could then be placed into the media pool just like any other media file.