Deshake or Deinterlace--Which first?

wwaag wrote on 12/12/2013, 1:19 PM
Current project is 1080 60P with mostly 1080 60P clips, but there are also a few 1080 60i clips that are in need of "deshaking". My question--which should I do first, deinterlace or deshake, or does it really matter? Thanks.

wwaag

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Steve Grisetti wrote on 12/12/2013, 2:06 PM
You shouldn't need to deinterlace at all. If you've got your project settings Deinterlace Method set up to interpolate fields, the program will do a very good job of digesting it automatically.

As for your "deshaking" -- you are talking about handheld camera shake, right? Not some strange tremble you're seeing in playback.

wwaag wrote on 12/12/2013, 3:44 PM
As for your "deshaking" -- you are talking about handheld camera shake, right? Not some strange tremble you're seeing in playback.

Yes, I am using Deshaker rather than Mercalli for stabilization. Using deinterlace within Vegas would always put it "after" stabilization. My question--is it perhaps better to deinterlace before stabilizing?

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Steve Grisetti wrote on 12/12/2013, 4:16 PM
As I've said, if your project properties are set up right, it's better not to deinterlace.

And make sure your project properties are set up also to match the 60p footage by the way.

Though this depends a lot of what you're eventually going to do with your finished video -- put it online, put it on a DVD, put it on a BluRay, etc.
Laurence wrote on 12/12/2013, 6:47 PM
Both the Deshaker script and Mercalli stabilize interlace footage differently than they do progressive. What they do with interlaced footage is separate the odd and even fields, stabilize them separately, the fold the two stabilized fields back together by alternating even and odd fields. If you are going to Bluray or DVD, you don't need to deinterlace. If you are going to Youtube or Vimeo or some other non TV playback, put the deshake before the deinterlace.
musicvid10 wrote on 12/12/2013, 8:34 PM
Good answer, Laurence.
wwaag wrote on 12/13/2013, 10:35 AM
Thanks for the replies. So I guess the consensus is to stabilize first, then de-interlace, which is pretty much what I've been doing.

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