Device not found - Pioneer DVD-RW DVR-105 USB Device

nomaders wrote on 6/2/2003, 6:52 PM
Vegas or DVDA can not find this device. This is an external device that I bought via a company called EZQUEST. I have a Pentium 4, 512 RAM, XP Pro, ver 2002, Serv Pack 1.

Any suggestions as to how DVDA or Vegas can see this DVD burner?

I've got to burn dance recital DVD's as soon as possible:)

Comments

[r]Evolution wrote on 6/4/2003, 9:08 PM
So does your computer find this device? Or is it just VEGAS & DVDA that cannot find this device?


I just purchased this same DVD Burner like 20 minutes ago. I got the one with a 1394 & a USB 2 connection. It should be here in like a week or so. Rest assured I will be monitoring this post. Also, if I find out something... I will pass it on.

P4, 2.4Ghz, 1GigDDR, ASUS MoBo, XPPro w/Serv Pack 1

Is there a place where we can see which devices are compatible w/ VEGAS & DVDA?

Lamont
BillyBoy wrote on 6/4/2003, 9:33 PM
There isn't a full list, but a short list of hardware tested. Kind of hard to find.

http://www.sonicfoundry.com/products/showproduct.asp?PID=810&FeatureID=6989&FeatureTL=6967
[r]Evolution wrote on 6/4/2003, 11:03 PM
Below is the list that you will find at that link.
Note: The Pioneer DVR-105 (-RW) is on the list.
Do you think it is the same model as the DVD-RW DVR-105?

Why wouldn't SoFo just list all the models tested by name, instead of those stupid parenthesis? That just serves to confuse us more. I asked 4 people what they thought it meant. I got 4 different answers and heard some name calling. Just because of those stupid parenthesis.


>Supported Drive List
The following list includes all drives that were tested specifically during the development and testing of DVD Architect. Other drives may work, but we cannot guarantee compatibility.

HP 200i (+RW)

HP 200e (+RW)

Matsushita/Panasonic LF-311 (-R)

Matsushita/Panasonic LF-321 (-R)

Philips DVDRW228 (+RW)

Pioneer DVR-103 (-RW)

Pioneer DVR-104 (-RW)

Pioneer DVR-105 (-RW)

Plextor PX-504A (+RW)

Sony DRU-120 (+RW)

Sony DRU-500 (+RW/-RW)



To test DVD burning with your system, you can download a sample project that has been prepared for burning. This is available on the download page. From the File menu, choose Make DVD, click the Burn button, and browse to the prepared project folder. <

Hope I added to the... I mean, helped with the confusion.
I would still like to find an answer before my Burner arrives.
(Pioneer DVD-RW DVR-105)

Lamont
BillyBoy wrote on 6/5/2003, 8:48 AM
It seems that the media type is enclosed ie (+ RW) or (-R)

Example HP 200i (what I have). There are no other numbers associated with it. Ditto for others listed as a quick web search confirms. If anyone is "confused" over something this simple I'm really surprised. Maybe I shouldn't be. <wink>
[r]Evolution wrote on 6/5/2003, 10:08 AM
Call me stupid...which I think Billy Boy did, <wink> but I guess I am now at a loss for what the difference is between DVD+R & DVD-R / DVD+RW & DVD-RW.

What does the (+) & (-) denote? Besides 'media type', does it have a purpose or meaning? Is one better than the other? Should I use one over the other if I'm hoping to burn projects and sell them? Is one more 'standardized' or compatible with DVD players?

If my Burner is a +R or +RW, does this mean that I must use DVD+R & DVD+RW media? And -R & -RW media for a -R & -RW Burner?

(I'm basically an audio guy with some video skills. The quality of what I can put on a DVD looks way better than what I've been putting on VHS. It's also less bulky and just appears to be more professional on a DVD. I'm sorry if the questions I ask are elementary. I am just trying to get a better understanding.)

Thank You for sharing the knowledge.
Lamont
jetdv wrote on 6/5/2003, 10:27 AM
What does the (+) & (-) denote? Besides 'media type', does it have a purpose or meaning? Is one better than the other? Should I use one over the other if I'm hoping to burn projects and sell them? Is one more 'standardized' or compatible with DVD players?

That's exactly what it indicates - media type. There are TWO standards being pushed by two separate groups. The first to hit the market was the "-" or "dash" (NOT "minus") type. The second to hit the market was the "+" or "plus" type.

If my Burner is a +R or +RW, does this mean that I must use DVD+R & DVD+RW media? And -R & -RW media for a -R & -RW Burner?

If your burner is a "+" drive it requires "+" media. If your burner is a "-" drive it requires "-" media. SOME drives now support both "-" and "+".
BillyBoy wrote on 6/5/2003, 11:18 AM
Just my kind of weird sense of humor. It just strikes my funny bone that different people seem so dead serious and uncertain about what others take for granted. No disrespect intended, its just how it strikes me as does the following.

More funny (to me) is you frequently see a question answered a day or more ago then someone else comes along 24 or more hours later and answers again, giving for all practical purposes the same answer only with a minor rearrangement of words, thinking somhow their answer is "better", because THEY offered it which also tickles my funny bone to no end.

This isn't to be confused with people answering within minutes of each other, which happens all the time and one just gets posted before the other probably because the second or third person answering was distracted or in the process of writing a reply just as the first person replying was posting, thus not knowing it was already answered.

It has been my experience having visited newsgroups and fourms for many years there are always a few characters that have some need to repeat what others already said, thinking nobody pays attention unless and until THEY say it. There seems to be a couple here and in the Vegas group that think that way. Which of course only makes me poke fun at them all the more.
[r]Evolution wrote on 6/5/2003, 5:46 PM
So is a (plus) sign Burner better than a (minus) or vice versa?

Which is the most compatible with most consumer players?

Or does any of this even matter?

Thanks,
Lamont
BillyBoy wrote on 6/5/2003, 5:59 PM
Better? No. Different? Yes. There are no "real" standards that some impartial body came up with. Not yet, at least not any that everyone agrees on. That is the problem. You've got two consortiums each having major players each pushing their "standard" and so far only a couple DVD burners handle both. Similar to beta max verses VHS or more recently Netscape verses Microsoft in browser wars.

For personal use no, it really don't matter. Just pick one and be happy. The problem comes if you distribute DVD's to others. Then it does matter, if you're a major player like the Hollywood studios, because they have them mastered, from which they are next pressed, not "burned" as someone running a small business would likely do for single copies or a small run.
[r]Evolution wrote on 6/8/2003, 1:07 AM
Well, I received my DVD Burner yesterday. VEGAS +DVD recognizes it. I am using it with FIREWIRE though. It has both FIREWIRE & USB2. It also came with USB installation software.

Did your BURNER come with installation software?

Using FIREWIRE and XP PRO it was true plug and play. Everything worked and recognized the very first time around. Maybe you need to contact the company and see what's up as this BURNER is definitely on the compatible list.

My fingers are crossed for you. I hope you get it to working. It is definitely an awesome BURNER.

Lamont
peggybell wrote on 6/10/2003, 7:43 AM
I have the same problem with my burner. I have to prepare the files in Architect to save them on my hd, then burn them with Nero. Not ideal, but works..
nomaders wrote on 6/21/2003, 9:48 PM
Hi Everybody,

Sorry, I was very distracted with my day job and dealing with the dance recital video in the evenings in which I hadn’t reviewed the replies.

My DVD burner setup is using a USB 2.0 connection in which SOFO doesn't support and V4 and DVDA also didn't recognize. I was hoping to find a solution here but I needed the burner to work yesterday, so… Funny thing is I have a Firewire to download my video but thought USB 2.0 was faster and would have more support (opps).

To solve my problem, I removed the external case (and of course voided my warranty) and plugged the DVD burner directly into the IDE bus. Everything has worked like a charm and I can burn close to a 2 hr DVD in about 15 minutes at 4x speed.

As an FYI (Batch Rendering is possible via JS):
Vegas 4.0
Only an example, I'm sure others forum members have a much better answer then this.
As an FYI, I also desperately wanted a batch rendering program (I haven’t had a chance to look at SOFO’s) to take my 32+ dances and render into Video for Windows and then into MPEG-2 and AC-3. This would have been about 100 renders if it went perfectly and that’s Friday night. I’d have to do it again for Saturday…

I found out that you can script in the .NET framework (JS) and after playing for a weekend I have it working (I have a programming background but haven’t worked with the new framework).

Here is the very primitive program (some stolen from SOFO examples). Sorry I haven’t commented almost anything and this isn’t plug_and_play so you’ll need a slight background in programming to really use it.

/**
* This script can be used to queue up multiple Vegas project files
* to be rendered.
*
* Revision Date: May. 07, 2003
**/

import System;
import System.IO;
import System.Windows.Forms;
import SonicFoundry.Vegas;

// Set this to a valid out directory or set it to null if you want the
// output files to be created in the same directory as their project
// file.

var defaultOutputDir = "C:\\Documents and Settings\\Nomaders\\My Documents\\Fitzpatrick Dancers\\2003\\Output\\Sat";
var defaultInputDir = "C:\\Documents and Settings\\Nomaders\\My Documents\\Fitzpatrick Dancers\\2003\\Input\\Sat";

// Set the following variable to true if you want to allow the script
// to overrwite existing rendered output files.
var allowFileOverwrites = true;

var renderer : Renderer;
var renderTemplate :RenderTemplate;

try {
if ((null != defaultOutputDir) && !Directory.Exists(defaultOutputDir))
throw "output directory does not exist: " + defaultOutputDir;

// Create a reference to the current directory.
var di : DirectoryInfo = new DirectoryInfo(defaultInputDir);

// Create an array representing the files in the current directory.
var renderQueue : FileInfo[] = di.GetFiles("Sat*.veg");

// Print out the names of the files in the current directory.
var queueIndex = 0
for (var i : int in renderQueue) {
// MessageBox.Show(renderQueue[i]);
queueIndex++;
}

// Sort the queue
renderQueue.sort();


// for each project file in the queue...
var renderIndex = 0
while (renderIndex < queueIndex) {

// open the next project
var vegFilename = renderQueue[renderIndex];
if (!Vegas.OpenProject(vegFilename)) {
throw "failed to open project file: " + vegFilename;
}

// compute the output directory
var outputDir;
if (null == defaultOutputDir) {
outputDir = Path.GetDirectoryName(vegFilename);
} else {
outputDir = defaultOutputDir;
}

// ************** Video for Windows and NTSC DV *************

// Modify the following two lines to suit you needs for the output format.
var rendererRE = /Video for Windows/;
var templateRE = /NTSC DV/;

// find the renderer and template
renderer = FindRenderer(rendererRE);
if (null == renderer)
throw "failed to find renderer";
renderTemplate = FindRenderTemplate(renderer, templateRE);
if (null == renderTemplate)
throw "failed to find render template";

// get file name extension that will be appended to each output file
var rendererExt = renderer.FileExtension.substring(1);

// create the output file name
var outputName = Path.GetFileNameWithoutExtension(vegFilename);
var outputFilename = outputDir + Path.DirectorySeparatorChar + outputName + rendererExt;
if ((!allowFileOverwrites) && File.Exists(outputFilename))
throw "file already exists: " + outputFilename;

// perform the render
var renderStatus = Vegas.Render(outputFilename, renderTemplate);
if (RenderStatus.Complete != renderStatus)
throw "failed to complete render: " + outputFilename;



renderIndex++;
}
} catch (e) {
MessageBox.Show(e);
}


function FindRenderer(rendererRegExp : RegExp) : Renderer {
var rendererEnum : Enumerator = new Enumerator(Vegas.Renderers);
while (!rendererEnum.atEnd()) {
var renderer : Renderer = Renderer(rendererEnum.item());
if (null != renderer.FileTypeName.match(rendererRegExp)) {
return renderer;
}
rendererEnum.moveNext();
}
return null;
}

function FindRenderTemplate(renderer : Renderer, templateRegExp : RegExp) : RenderTemplate {
var templateEnum : Enumerator = new Enumerator(renderer.Templates);
while (!templateEnum.atEnd()) {
var renderTemplate : RenderTemplate = RenderTemplate(templateEnum.item());
if (renderTemplate.Name.match(templateRegExp)) {
return renderTemplate;
}
templateEnum.moveNext();
}
return null;
}

Thanks everybody, Regards,
Nomaders