Digital Juice VideoTraxx within Vegas?

Liam_Vegas wrote on 1/25/2005, 6:19 PM
I have the Digitial Juice Videotraxx libraries (set 1) and have used them successfully on several projects. In my latest project I have used quite a few clips from the libray. My client is an Ocean education facility and I have used quite a few of the libraries clips or ocean/beach/animals etc etc.

My standard workflow is to simply load the clips directly onto the timeline without using their product (Juicer 2) to render them to a DV AVI file. My reasoning is that Vegas can handle that just as well. The files come up in Vegas as being Motion Jpeg / Upper field first / NTSC. They preview pretty well too.

However the finished renders exhibit problems with <some> of the clips. This problem is evident both when doing a PTT of the final AVI and also after rendering to MPEG and viewing on a DVD.

It's a little difficult to describe... but I find myself uttering the words that I have seen mentioned many times in the past <gasp>- Tthese clips seem to be "jittery".

The fact I see this when these clips are rendered to AVI means (to me anyway) this is not an issue to do with bit-rate and the like. It's almost as if the field order is maybe wrong.

So... on a couple of test clips I changed the field order properties of the clip to be Lower Field and then Progressive. I rendered these to standard NTSC DV AVI (lower field first) and checked on my monitor. The progressive one actually looked the best of the lot... but still unacceptable.

I then decided to do it by the book and to use their Juicer software to render the original files to NTSC DV AVI (Lower Field).

This worked great.

So... I have a soilution.. but.. I am wondering why I cannot get the native files to work directly in Vegas without having to render them first. I would prefer to use the original files and to have Vegas do all the work. I can live with this solution... but... has anyone else got any ideas as to why this isn't working the way I think it should?

Thanks

-Liam

Comments

Liam_Vegas wrote on 1/26/2005, 4:59 AM
bumpy wumpy.

Anyone else got this stock library?
FrigidNDEditing wrote on 1/26/2005, 8:06 AM
I'm looking into getting it, so I will be very curious to see what happens with this. Sorry I don't have an answer for ya.

Dave
VideoArizona wrote on 1/26/2005, 10:22 AM
Liam,

I use both of the video packages and do not convert them. When I import them into Vegas they are Quicktime files. They play fine without stuttering with a very few exceptions. I just copy the files from the DVD to the hard drive, then import them into the media pool.

You might check and see what version of QT you have on your computer.

Hope this helps,

David
Liam_Vegas wrote on 1/26/2005, 1:37 PM
The problem is definitely only there on a some of the clips. I of course know they are quicktime files... however some of them are different formats. For instance some are 30fps progressive photo-jpeg - others are 29.997 upper field first photo-jpeg.

The clips I have used in the past have all been just fine. It is only these few. I'll get back to you with a clip name - and maybe you can do a quick test to see if you get the same thing I do. When you render to AVI and view on an external monitor you can see it is not doing something right.

This is a bit disturbing...

I have quicktime 6.1... what version do you have?