DISK FULL

JHendrix wrote on 8/3/2005, 11:56 AM
DISK FULL!!

I have a movie and it is 3 hours 45 Minites
Plus 1.8 GIG ROM content

the dual layer DVD is full and I still have a few more chapters to add. Basically I must have mis caluclated compression.

Im using:

MAX 7,500,000
Average 4,200,000
MIN 2,520,000

for MPEG

and

192 for my ac3


there are certian chapters that can loose video qualtiy and certian that cant.

any tips on how to shave some size off?

what settings i might be able to go down to and still have it look good?


I thought my current video settings were considered really low already....arent they?




Comments

Former user wrote on 8/3/2005, 12:46 PM
A one hour DVD will be around 8000 constant bitrate.

For two hours, you would need to use around 4000 cbr.

So for almost 4 hours, you would need even lower, so I think your max and average numbers are a bit high for VBR.

Dave T2
rs170a wrote on 8/3/2005, 12:50 PM
Not sure where you got your numbers from but my calculator gives me:

Max. 6500
Avg. 3200
Min. 2400

Mike
johnmeyer wrote on 8/3/2005, 2:33 PM
A dual layer disk is 8,540,000,000 bytes. If you encode your audio using 192 kbps AC-3, then for 3 hours 45 minutes, and with 1.8 GBytes of existing data already on the disk, you should encode at an average 3,665 kbps (I have a very nice Excel spreadsheet that calculates these things, for any size disk, any audio bitrate, and any amount of existing data on the disk).

Your encode rate of 4,200 kbps is way too high and will not work.

You can encode some things at a lower rate, but if everything is already done at 4,200, you'll have to encode the other items at considerably less than 3,665 in order to make everything fit. Quite frankly, once you start encoding at less than 3,000, the results are going to look pretty bad, even when using 2-pass VBR encoding (which is mandatory at these low encoding rates).

I suppose you could try the trick of creating the DVD, creating files that exceed what can actually fit, and then use DVD Shrink to reduce the size of all the files. However, while this trick works pretty well when you are only a few percent over what will fit, in your case, a lot of shrinking must be done on files that are already going to be marginal. Despite this, you might want to give it a try. DVD Shrink only takes a few hours to run, even in its highest quality settings.
JHendrix wrote on 8/4/2005, 6:24 AM
So when you say

3,665

Thats your recomended average?, how about min/max?