Display 'Tape Time Code?

CVM wrote on 10/23/2006, 4:16 PM
In Vegas, I know how to display 'track' time code using the Video FX... but how can I place a video event on the timeline and display the actual 'tape' time code?

Case in point... I made a VITC dub of the raw footage for a producer for paper editing (using the 'time code display function' on my GL-2 to burn the code onto the VHS). I then uploaded the non-burned version of the footage to Vegas for the actual edit... but I won't be able to shuttle the events on the time line to find the in/out points without the 'tape' time code displayed.

Help! Thanks.

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DJPadre wrote on 10/23/2006, 4:20 PM
i didnt know this till recently, but if u click and drag the timecode filter onto the clip in question WITHIN THE MEDIA POOL (Project media) then it will tap into the timecode and display it..
thing is, u then need to go back to each clip to remove said filter or run a script, to which i dont know if that is possible to do this within project media
rs170a wrote on 10/23/2006, 4:37 PM
There's a script called "Add Timecode to All Media".
The reverse of it is a script called "RemoveTimecode from All Media".
I think this was a part of Vegas 6 but, as I have several scripts from all over the place, I'm not certain.

Mike
CVM wrote on 10/23/2006, 4:38 PM
Thanks for the quick response... but no luck. Doing what you indicated does nothing. The cursor changes to a circle with a line through it when I click and drag the TC function to a clip in my Project Media folder. Thoughts?
CVM wrote on 10/23/2006, 4:47 PM
I see what you mean with that 'Show time code in all media' script... but it's not what I need. I need to see the timecode that was generated by the CAMERA onto the tape... NOT the timecode Vegas assigns to video events when placed on the time line (this TC changes depending on where you place the video on the time line... the camera TC is absolute).

Can anyone help?
rs170a wrote on 10/23/2006, 5:00 PM
Try running the script BEFORE you place your clips on the timeline.
However, I just tried this both before and after placing the clips and it works for me.
BTW, this is with Vegas 6.0d.

Mike
farss wrote on 10/23/2006, 5:02 PM
RClick the media in the media pool and select the TC FX to add it to the media. Set the TC FX to create the type of TC recorded by the camera. Size and place to suit.

Bob.
rs170a wrote on 10/23/2006, 5:22 PM
Bob, the only problem with doing it this way is that you have the apply the TC FX to every clip in the media pool. If you have a lot of clips, it's a LOT of clicking :-(

Mike
CVM wrote on 10/23/2006, 5:23 PM
FARSS... BOB... you are a genius!!!! This is great!!! Thank you ... thank you.. thank you!!!!!!

Thank you ALL for helping!!
riredale wrote on 10/23/2006, 5:35 PM
Cool.

Here's what I've discovered recently:

(1) Before Vegas7, going into Options/Preferences/Video/ "Show source frame numbers as --timecode--

would put a timecode tag on the video icons on the timeline, but the timecode would count up from 0, starting at the left edge of the clip on the timeline. BUT in Vegas7, doing the same thing puts in the camera timecode!

(2) As mentioned above, right-clicking on a clip in Project Media and selecting the Timecode FX will put the camera timecode on the actual video in the Preview window. Using the script "Add timecode" will do the same thing, but will do it for all clips on the timeline.

The two features are completely separate, so you can show camera timecode just on the timeline icons, on the actual video, or both. Again, this is for Vegas7--in a quick test last week I think I concluded that Vegas6 wouldn't do this.
PeterWright wrote on 10/24/2006, 6:20 PM
I'm pretty sure Vegas has done this since VV3 at least - I have always worked with camera timecode showing in the Events thumbnail. A really cool feature is that the read out updates as you drag the event edge.
As you say Richard, you can also make it visible in preview & output by applying TC FX in the Media Pool.
riredale wrote on 10/24/2006, 8:17 PM
Hmmm...

I just opened an m2t clip (the same one) in both Vegas6 and Vegas. Vegas7 shows the timecode on the timeline picture icons as camera timecode (the particular clip begins at 7:40;05), while the Vegas6 timecode shows the left edge beginning at 0:00;00. Both programs have been set using Options/Preferences/Video/ "Show source frame numbers...". Maybe there is an extra setting I failed to throw in Vegas6.

I recall reading somewhere that this was one of the things different with V7, though. But I could be wrong.
PeterWright wrote on 10/24/2006, 8:20 PM
ah - the new feature I think relates to HDV - I was talking about DV generally.
CClub wrote on 11/15/2006, 6:21 PM
Let me ask this: I capture a DV scene from a tape and save it as an avi on my hard drive, edit it in Vegas 7, render, etc., then delete the original captured avi file. Later, I want to re-edit the veg file, so I need to re-capture the DV footage from the original tape, right? But what if the re-capture is slightly off, or I just want to capture the portions of footage that I need? Will the veg automatically pick up that original timecode for the footage portions I'm using? The reason I ask is that a friend of mine said that on FCP, he always has to tell the capture program to record the timecodes when he first captures them, so if he needs to reload the tapes, FCP already knows where the portions are that he's looking for. Is there something I'm missing doing on my original capture regarding timecode, or does Vegas 7 do it automatically?
farss wrote on 11/15/2006, 7:28 PM
As far as I know the veg file by itself is not enough to recapture from tape, you need the vidcap file that contains the data for the capture session.
CClub wrote on 11/16/2006, 5:57 AM
Bob,
If I have the vidcap file that was in place when I originally captured the footage, it should show the clips but say they're offline, correct? Would I then just tell it to Batch Capture the clips I want to re-capture? I wouldn't have to go through all that work to have originally done Mark In and Mark out, as the captured clips in the vidcap file would have all that info?

BTW, where is that vidcap file if I wanted to back it up?
farss wrote on 11/16/2006, 6:17 AM
Hm,
sorry just shut my Vegas systems down to get some sleep so this might be a bit off the mark in the fine detail department.

Vidcap (a program) creates a 'log' file of everything you capture. You can reload jobs from that and recapture the clips. If a clip isn't where Vegas expects it to be then Vegas flags it as Offline. That can be as simple as you moved the file or as messy as you deleted it and need to recapture it.

So you need that log file (sorry can't remember the name of it) if you want to recapture.

Bob.