dissapointed....

blink3times wrote on 4/20/2009, 6:24 AM

And V9 will have issues as well. Some will get patched and some not. Then there will be V10... and the cycle continues. No different from any other nle.

Any nle will ALWAYS have issues. It's the nature of the beast and if you spend time trying to correct every OOPS!... then we sure wouldn't advance very much and you can't do that.... otherwise your nle of choice starts falling behind relative to the others.... and the whining/complaining will begin in that arena.

John_Cline wrote on 4/20/2009, 6:30 AM

It hasn't even hit our desktops yet, but the complaining has already started. Unbelieveable.

ushere wrote on 4/20/2009, 6:37 AM

hi b3t,

i have no argument at all with your observations, they're perfectly valid - only with the fact that there seems to be a few (well documented) loose ends lying around and we're being asked to spring for a new version (with no mention of fixes to existing problems, such as memory management, etc.,) a little too quickly.

i would be a little more comfortable with a 8d that fixed the known problems before being asked to buy 9.

but hey, i'm just another old fart who thinks that when i buy something it should work properly before being asked to buy a replacement. i have not had problems with vegas's upgrades policies since version 4 - things were fixed before new versions, or so it seemed....

leslie

hey jc, i think that's unfair - i have no problems at all with vegas - i think it's been the best thing since sliced bread since version 3 - my gripe is more to do with sony's rushing ahead with 9 before fixing 8

John_Cline wrote on 4/20/2009, 6:41 AM

Since Vegas v9 now supports 4k resolution and gigapixel images, then it is a safe assumption that they are doing something new and/or different with memory management. I'm guessing that you're a "glass half empty" kind of guy, aren't you?

rs170a wrote on 4/20/2009, 6:41 AM

leslie, all we can do is hope that the outstanding issues have been resolved.
I don't push my machine the way that some folks here do so I haven't had to deal with any of these issues :-)

My guess is that most of the beta testers are at NAB right now (and just waking up) which is why we haven't heard anything from them yet.

Mike

Chienworks wrote on 4/20/2009, 9:36 AM

You're unlikely to hear from the beta testers. The NDR usually extends past the release date, since they're probably already testing the next release at that point.

Terje wrote on 4/20/2009, 12:43 PM

Happy to see Sony claiming support for huge images, I guess this new feature is in fact a fix for the memory issues they have had. Other than that I am a little disappointed that this is a .0 release, it doesn't seem like fixing a memory issue, changing the UI color and adding a few silly effects would warrant a .0 upgrade. OK, I know, I am exaggerating slightly but still.

My pet peeve, except for stability issues, still remains. It still seems clear that nobody at SCS has been accessing the internet for video (or anything else I guess) for the past five years. For internet delivery they still blabber about WVM and Real. Astounding to me, but there you go. What I wouldn't give to be able to use Vegas for my instructional stuff at work, you know, outputting some flash video with markers in it. I still have to turn to Adobe for that.

rmack350 wrote on 4/20/2009, 1:32 PM

Support for 4k resolutions is new stuff, not a fix. Support for larger images is also new stuff but Vegas didn't really have a hard limit on the dimensions of an image you could *try* to put on the timeline.

Implied in all this is that Vegas must have changed some of the ways it handles memory. You could call that a fix but it's also a requirement for the two new features.

Honestly, I'm always amazed that SCS gives people new features in the point releases. It's not required of them.

As far as generating FLV files goes, they'd have to add it to the price because it isn't free to them. I'd be pretty happy if they just sold a third party's tools on their site because that would at least put the question to rest.

Rob Mack

jwcarney wrote on 4/20/2009, 1:51 PM

I had a chance to talk to several of the beta testers who've been testing it since Dec. Lots of stability issues have been fixed. 64bit is much more solid now. We also have working rec 709 color space folks. The support for Red is incredible and for most unexpected (like me).
They were playing back 4K r3d files on the timeline in realtime on a 8core Athlon system, which means even better performance on the new Nehalem Xeons. Also in true Vegas fashion you can put Red, Mpeg2, Dvcporo50... multiple formats on the same timeline.

BTW, also saw the new Sony 3.8k lcd monitor with led back lighting. Holy crap is that thing awesome.
Sony is hitting on all cylinders this NAB.

je@on wrote on 4/20/2009, 1:52 PM

I would've liked to see OMF support on that list of new stuff. Alas...

Terje wrote on 4/20/2009, 2:01 PM

>> As far as generating FLV files goes, they'd have to add it to the price
>> because it isn't free to them

Obviously, and that is not a problem in my opinion. This is, after all, the professional version. The one that is presumably used by an amount of people that use it professionally for internet delivery. Some of us use video a lot in companies etc. Training videos is a market too. Sure, WMV is OK, or at least it was, a few years back.

It seems odd to me that SCS consistently ignores the fastest growing market for video delivery. Ignores it for years and years after it has become an important market. And no, I am not talking about YouTube here.

rmack350 wrote on 4/20/2009, 2:53 PM

Oh, I agree that it shouldn't be ignored. I also agree that it'd be a pretty minor cost of doing business. But it's also obvious to me that a lot of what drives the development of Vegas, PPro, and even FCP is the prosumer who doesn't really get to fold things in to the cost of doing business.

Given all the whining here about the cost of an upgrade I kind of think they need to offer it as a $50.00 ( or much, much higher if that's what it takes) add-on rather than including FLV exports in the box.

Rob Mack