SAme here...after downloading 6d, DVD's that I created and extracted a few weeks ago, no longer worked. I could not extract VOB's from my own CD's that I made from DVD A.

Thanks, none I'm not alone.

Maybe the tech guys for vegas should creat an update for the update. I dont know what when wrong with 6d but it needs to me fixed. I did not have any problems with 6c so I'm going to restall that version on my editing computer.

Mark

I thought I was having the same problem, with vobs stored on my hard drive as well as I had a bunch of short DVD's that I combined onto one DL DVD.
for me it was whenn i would go to the folder that contained the vob files I would not get the "ok" button to be active.
what I found was i didnt have the vobs in a VIDEO_TS subfolder of the DVD title.
I created the subfolder and moved the vobs there and then it worked.

Dont remember 6c having to do that but it's fixed my problem.
dont know if it's the same as you guys. And if its a bug or the way its supposed to work.

Extracting .vobs from authored DVDs is not a supported feature in any SMS product...

that said, what is your extraction process?

File>Import>DVD camcorder disc ?
Other?

VOB files are broken into 1 gig chunks by the authoring program and I have found that Vegas is not particularly accurate during the extraction when spanning from one VOB file to the next. There usually seems to be an audio discontinuity at the VOB breaks. I use a freeware program called "SmartRipper v2.41" to extract VOB files from DVDs and I set it to 10,000MB max VOB size so it just extracts a single, large VOB file. You can also use SmartRipper to extract the video and audio streams as separate files. The video ends up as an M2V and the audio as whatever it was to begin with; AC3, PCM or MP2. This is really handy when I need to reauthor discs for my clients. SmartRipper and a program called "VideoReDo Plus" are real timesavers when I need to repurpose DVD material and don't have the time to re-encode from the .AVI files.

John

>>Extracting .vobs from authored DVDs is not a supported feature in any SMS product...

that said, what is your extraction process?

File>Import>DVD camcorder disc ?<<

Huh what am I missing ? I dont have a DVD camcorder so i dont know how the files are on those disc's.
But I have used the above steps to extract chapters from discs I made (authored) in DVDA to the Vegas T/L for combining onto one disc.I know it somehow changes the vob to an mpeg probably recompressing, but what is the other way?

John,

Could you tell me exactly how to extract files from a DVD that was authored using DVDA with AC3 audio to be usable in Vegas using Smart Ripper?

I downloaded it and have been playing around with it tonight, as it apparently does, from your description, exactly what I need.

I have a DVD authored in DVDA from Vegas files and a DVD from a Panasonic desktop recorder. Both are video with AC3 audio. I have tried various settings to extract files usable in Vegas and Canopus Edius. Depending on what options I chose, I either get a single VOB file that Vegas handles the video OK, but without audio, or 2 seperate VOB files that contain either audio or video, which Vegas seems to like (or not, depending on the files), but causes Edius to freeze on import, or a m2v file which neither program likes and various VOB files that either program will import or not, seemingly without any pattern.

What settings do you use, and what are your resultant files?

Thanks in advance.

Tom

Tom,

In SmartRipper under "Stream Processing" make sure "Enable Stream Processing" is checked. Then click on the video stream and select "Demux to Extra File." Then click on the audio track and also select "Demux to Extra File."

Under the Settings tab, set "Max File Size" to 10,000 MB.

I generally rip using the "Movie" mode and just select the program chain I want to rip. These steps should give you a single M2V and single AC3 file for the selected program chain.

John

John,

What I was doing wrong was I had failed to check the demux to additional streams in the audio portion of the settings.

HOWEVER: The resultant mpg video and ac3 files cannot be opened by Vegas. It says for both the audio and video that the file format is not supported. I understand that AC3 might not be (still a great puzzle to me why not) but the mpg video file should be. The files were originally encoded from Vegas and burned to the DVD using DVDA.

Now, here's the interesting part. I ripped the DVD again creating one muxed VOB file in Movie mode. I then used media explorer and went to the file folder that the vob was ripped to. Vegas did not see the vob, obviously, but I clicked All Files, it showed up and I dragged it onto the timeline. Imagine my surprise when it opened on the timeline and played back the file, video and audio, perfectly in sync!

So contrary to other methods I've tried, this is the best yet. I was able to do exactly what I needed to do and re-rendered without a hiccup. No audio out of sync issues, no extra black frames, no nuttin' bad.

I still don't know why the mpg demux wouldn't open, but I'm delighted that this method works, and with ac3 audio yet.

Thanks for your steering me to this.

Tom

Here is what I do using Vegas 4:

1. Copy Video TS file to hard drive.
2. Open Vegas 4
3. Import the Vob files only into the media pool (select view ALL files)at which time Vegas builds the audio files
4. Put them up on the timeline (don't try to play them) and Render to avi
5. Open a new Vegas
6. Import the new avi file
7. Edit

Works every time

John

HOWEVER: The resultant mpg video and ac3 files cannot be opened by Vegas. It says for both the audio and video that the file format is not supported. I understand that AC3 might not be (still a great puzzle to me why not) but the mpg video file should be. The files were originally encoded from Vegas and burned to the DVD using DVDA.

If you update to Vegas 6.0c or 6.0d, AC3 is recognized.

Hi John.

i am using 6d, but it will not open any AC3 files I've tried yet, even the ones it creates. It certainly creates them nicely, though.

It's interesting to me that some obvious ways of doing these things don't seem to work for me, yet the things that aren't
"supposed to work", like directly dropping a VOB on the timeline work fine! It is screwy, though. I thought for sure that I had imported AC3 in before, but had issues with syncing to the video, as the AC3 audio stream was longer than the video stream and I had to stretch-compress the file a bit to line everything up.

I'll have to do some more playing and see if there is a pattern, or if I have a setting wrong someplace that I'm not aware of.

And craftech John, are you able to do that in 4 with AC3 in the VOB files, or is that just with PCM or MPG encoded audio?

And craftech John, are you able to do that in 4 with AC3 in the VOB files, or is that just with PCM or MPG encoded audio?
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Yes,

With AC3. My method beats going nuts with this stuff.

John

Thanks John.

The only reason I'm trying other methods is to overcome the multiple VOB file issues so that I can have a continuous file to dela with rather than multiple non-contiguous files.

Thanks John.

The only reason I'm trying other methods is to overcome the multiple VOB file issues so that I can have a continuous file to dela with rather than multiple non-contiguous files.
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Once they go up on the timeline it doesn't make any difference if there is one or three. They only go up on the timeline with the rebuilt audio files for the sole purpose of rendering them to an avi to edit.

John

John,

Thanks for all of your input. I'll try that tonight when I get some free time.. Previously I had found extra black frames in the video between the vob chapter files as well as a/v sync problems when trying the individual vob files on the timeline butted up against each other as you suggest, but that might be because I was trying the import from DVD CAM function in V6, not just a vob drag and drop.

Here is what I do using Vegas 4:

1. Copy Video TS file to hard drive.
2. Open Vegas 4
3. Import the Vob files only into the media pool (select view ALL files)at which time Vegas builds the audio files
4. Put them up on the timeline (don't try to play them) and Render to avi
5. Open a new Vegas
6. Import the new avi file
7. Edit


John, this works great. Thanks for that tip.

Jimmy

Here's another cool thing I just discovered.

The Import DVD Camcorder Disc function will import DVD RAM video and audio directly from the disc! That's very nice for some of my projects where video by necessity comes from a desktop recorder where there are no other higher quality transfer options.

It's getting better and better.

Still I cannot open standalone AC3 files though, contrary to other posts.


EDIT: John, your method does indeed work. It seems like the Import Camcorder DVD function is what adds the problems with the vobs on the timeline, althogh I have not imported a DVD with multiple vobs yet. The one I had handy is one continuous VOB. More play after dinner.

Just tried your method with a disc that had several vobs in 1 GB chunks and put the vobs on the timeline and rendered to avi. The resultant avi had about a 5 to 10 frame gap with black frames and funky audio between the 2 vobs, so that won't do the trick.

Kind of late to the party on this thread, but FWIW... in Vegas 5, I was able to import the VOB files as mentioned, placed them on the timeline (for the most part they played back fine though at certain points the audio was out of sync but that never showed up in the final render) and I rendered directly to .mpeg 2 for DVDA (widescreen template) along with .ac3 audio. Then I opened DVDA2 and burned a new DVD. I didn't need to edit my video files although I did want to use the 16:9 pan/crop to expand my video to widescreen and I also wanted .ac3 audio instead of PCM. While it looked quite dodgy in my preview window while rendering, the final DVD was perfect and I hardly even noticed the generation loss on the final DVD.