EDITING 3 or more MIC TRACKS

wazer wrote on 5/24/2003, 7:10 AM

Hi Again!

Does anybody have an idea how to edit for e.g. 3 mic recording in VEGAS?

I have a sitar track recorded with 3 mics in different positions (1stereo and 1 mono files). I need until the end of editnig all the tracks, becouse at this moment i don't know how to get THE FINAL SOUND. i don't want to render them into a single stereo file, the mixing possibilities will loose. Grouping all the cutted pieces, moving them together is a hard way. (no group manager or whatever present) Hard, but not impossible. The biggest problem are the FADES.
i have to adjust the fades on track-by-track, autofade is not for me...
Another big probplem : i MUST work with "PHASE LOCKED" files, if i do a little mistake - and i don't recognize the moved object - that part will be OUT OF PHASE.. Aaaagh!

But what a sound! :)

In a week i'll go to record the string session.. Minimum 8 mics, separated violin, viola, cello recording.. Uhh...

I think that should be OK if i do a PREVIEW stereo render (with pre-mixed mics) and edit it, but how to get the SEPARATED and EDITED record tracks AFTER for mixing them, using phase invert, and maybe a little offset (+/-) on any track?

i have many acoustic drum recordings, separated and played together, all recorded with 8 mics. i love to add somtimes just the ROOM mic to get a crunchy, overcopressed dirt to my electric HiHat part... OK, that's just one mono (or dual mono/stereo) track... But what if i decide to add the close mic rec after i have edited the room mic track? Forget about?...

So?

w!

P.S. : i think you pros should focus on what you have (the GREAT VEGAS!), and make music or video or innovation instead of this kung-fu fighting against PT...

P.S.2: i had PT mix plus. Now i have VEGAS (and some outboards). And i'm still happy / maybe a little happier. :)

P.S.2: did anybody read my FILE ORGANIZING topic? i really need advice.. :(

Comments

Chienworks wrote on 5/24/2003, 7:37 AM

How about soloing each track and rendering them one at a time to new .wav files?

Cold wrote on 5/24/2003, 7:48 AM

personally, I wouldn't premix the tracks just for ease of edditting, do the work, maintain the control.
Steve S

drbam wrote on 5/24/2003, 8:51 AM

I will often render a comp or submix (drums or whatever) and keep the original tracks to use as I'd like for various effects in the final mix stage. An example might be added compression on the hi hat as wazer noted, or a long verb tail on one drum hit. The major editing/mixing is then easier and quicker but I haven't given up any options if I change my mind later.

Another comment: As noted in several professional articles, an interesting outcome of this incredible DAW technology is that artists and engineers are less likely to "commit" to their sounds, arrangements and mixes (ie; printing efx, rendering, comping, etc.) until the final mix stage which can make things not only confusing but literally unmanageable at times. Although having the option for doing this has its obvious benefits, for some (like myself) it can also interfere with the creative process. Lately I've been working to strike a balance with this issue by consciously committing to certain aspects of a project along the way. Interestingly, this gives me a greater sense of being in control then waiting till later in the process. My $.02

drbam

wazer wrote on 5/25/2003, 6:03 AM

Do you know the FOLDER track in the major sequencer programs? I thik the best way should look like that. Just select the desired tracks, put them together into a folder track which should GRAHICALLY REFER to the wavs containing. (without any precision calculating of DX effects, of course, but much better than LOGIC, please..)
This Folder Track should be edited as a normal take, BUT CONTAINS PHASE COHERENT wavs. Easy way of editing multiple track at one cut and fade isn't it?

This function could give us the chance of managing EVERYTHING. 200 track wav never a problem for me/us.. Since the VEGAS (not my PC..) can handle theoretically unlimited tracks...
Everything is under control. Almost everything..

w!