Editing Divx and Xvid in Pro9

kraz wrote on 4/19/2010, 12:40 PM
I am sure I am missing something very simple here.
I have a machine (That has Divx Installed - and I also am ripping disks to Divx and Xvid with DVDFab)

When I try to add either a Divx or Xvid video to my timeline it wither won't allow it at all - or sometimes will only bring in the audio ...

I assume I have the codec since I am ripping and watching on that machine etc.

Do I need to set something inside Vegas?

Thanks
Allen

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kraz wrote on 4/20/2010, 6:24 AM
maybe a link - or what driver to put ...
musicvid10 wrote on 4/20/2010, 11:10 AM
Encoding support in another application does not mean the codec is installed at the system level or exposed to Vegas. You will likely have to go to the codec home site, download and install the vfw codecs. Hope that clears up your confusion. I don't think there are a lot of people here who use these codecs extensively with Vegas Pro.
John_Cline wrote on 4/20/2010, 12:00 PM
You would actually be better off ripping the discs to their native MPEG2 format rather than transcoding them to Divx. Divx is an OK final distribution format but was never really intended for editing.

I hope you're not ripping copyrighted material from these discs and asking for advice here on the forum on how to do something illegal.
kraz wrote on 4/20/2010, 2:05 PM
nope ...
looking at an alternative lower space taking format - that I can store file that I in general will not need to edit - but in some crazy cases I would want to ...
I just wanted to see how well editing would work in those cases ....

Thanks I will look for the codec - do I then install it on the windows layer - or actually into Vegas?
Mike M. wrote on 4/20/2010, 2:19 PM
Your subject says you want to "edit", but if you just want to convert to another format then why not just use one of the many free conversion utilities. For instance, there are the open source command lines ones like: ffmpeg and mencoder. Or, versions that are based on the same "engines" that have GUI's like MediaCoder. All will convert to mp4/h.264 or avi/xvid....etc
LReavis wrote on 4/20/2010, 6:12 PM
If you are trying to open Divx files in a 64-bit version of Vegas, it won't work. I just installed the latest stuff from the Divx website that promised 64-bit support, and it did indeed allow me (finally) to open Divx files in 32-bit versions of Vegas running on Win7-64 - but no go for my 9c-64bit.

I spent at least an hour on the web looking for a 64-bit decoder without much success. I did find a codec pack that claims the ability to install a 64-bit decoder for Divx files, but I steer clear of codec packs unless truly desperate.

Unfortunately, I have a .VEG project that includes a couple of Divx clips. Because my 32-bit versions of Vegas (8c and 9c) often crash during render, I may have to render out those clips using the PicVideo or Cineform codec so that I can open them for rendering in 9c-64.

If anyone knows of a 64-bit codec that can open Divx clips, I'd sure be happy to hear from you. . .
JohnnyRoy wrote on 4/20/2010, 6:46 PM
In general, DivX and Xvid are horrible to edit. They will cause nothing but problems. Even if you do manage to edit them, they will never render properly. Just accept that Vegas and DivX/Xvid is not an option.

If you are using the 64-bit version of Vegas, forget about using DivX or Xvid at all. There are two codec technologies. Video for Windows (VFW) and DirectShow. Even if DivX had a 64-bit codec, it would most likely use the newer DirectShow and Vegas uses the older VFW. This is why media Player will play files that Vegas will not import (because there are two codec technologies to deal with and you may have one but not the other)

If you really want to edit DivX in Vegas, use the 32-bit version of Vegas and in addition to the DivX codec, install the x264vfw codec. But even then there is no guarantee that your project will render correctly. It's really something that should be avoided.

As others have said, DivX and Xvid are delivery formats not editing formats. If you must edit them, transcode the video to MJPEG, Lagarith, or Huffyuv and edit that instead.

~jr
kraz wrote on 4/21/2010, 10:47 AM
Thanks JohnnyRoy,

That is what I needed to hear ...
I should NOT be editing Divx files .. and that is doubly true with 64 bit.
Enough said.

I guess the next question is - how much quality do I lose if I change from mpeg2 to Divx for storage and THEN back when I want to edit ....

Thanks
Allen
John_Cline wrote on 4/21/2010, 11:01 AM
Divx is a highly lossy codec, going from MPEG2 to Divx and back again is probably not going to look as good as you'd like.

You video already took a significant quality hit when it was compressed to MPEG2, like I said earlier, why not keep it in that format? Hard drives are CHEAP.

If you're hell-bent on saving disc space then maybe you should be considering using h.264 in an MP4 container. Just select Sony AVC as your render format and choose an appropriate template.