editing super 16mm material, any special settings for vegas or photoshop?

musman wrote on 5/10/2004, 2:56 AM
Making the big leap into film for the first time and am wondering if there's anything special I should know. Currently, I'm trying to prepair titles for a show that appear first on a tv in the background of one shot, then will appear directly on the screen (ie, not in background, but will import and show from Vegas).
I'm wondering what to do about having super 16mm's aspect ratio, which I understand is nearly 16x9, and normal tv's 4x3 on the same timeline. Also not sure how to adjust the settings in Vegas 4 (might upgrade to 5 soon if that would help) or Photoshop CS to make the titles. Would this be any easier if I just made everything on the tv 16x9?
I looked, but didn't find anything in the vegas manual about how to handle this. Sorry for the long post, but does anyone have any ideas?
As always, thank you very much for your time.

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vitamin_D wrote on 5/10/2004, 5:52 AM
You can change aspect ratio at render time in Vegas, or at the File-->Properties window. You can get any custom frame size and render out to it from there. For instance -- I've been working with 720x240 a lot lately for side-by-side online comparisons.

Otherwise, re: "special settings" -- if you're going out to film (or film resolution) you need to learn about proxy files, frameserving, and I'd suggest getting the Huffyuv lossless codec and start playing with it.

Good luck -- keep us posted!

- jim
farss wrote on 5/10/2004, 6:07 AM
Are you going to shoot film, edit in Vegas and match back to film?
If so I seem to remember the Sony gurus saying Vegas was not the tool for the job. I do see in V5 they've added 16/35mm Feet:Frames as ruler options, don't know if anything else has changed.
If you're going to print back to film from video then the one place I looked at for doing the transfer will accept graphics files for doing credits. Text would be very sensitive to the limitations of video once transferred to film so this is a good approach.
Have you costed all this out BTW?
musman wrote on 5/10/2004, 3:47 PM
Thank you both for the help. Actually, I'm not planning on doing match back, sorry if I made this unclear. That's probably the only place where I disagree w/ DSE as I say if Sony is gonna charge more, add more functionality for indie filmmakers.
Anyway, I was just curious about settings to:
1- Bring in and edit super 16mm material (transfered to dv tape)
2- Have whatever aspect ratio super 16mm is on the same timeline as 4x3 video, especially for final rendering
3- Settings for photoshop CS to do titles in the same aspect ratio as super 16mm.
Thanks for any help!
SonyEPM wrote on 5/11/2004, 6:35 AM
musman: How are you delivering this project? Depending on how you answer, you might look at the new pulldown removal feature in Vegas 5. You could cut the whole thing in a 24p project and create 24p DVDs.
aspenv wrote on 5/11/2004, 8:57 AM
How does this differ from vegas 4? I though DVD Architect 1.0 could make 24p projects.
musman wrote on 5/11/2004, 2:39 PM
I'm confused about this also. I thought all of that was available in Vegas 4 as well.
This is a short film for festivals, so my final format will be DVD for some and Beta SP for others. I'm on the screening committee and run a venue for the festival it will hopefully premiere in, and I don't even know whether we'll be using both DVD and Beta SP or just Beta this year. Despite screening the dvds last year, we still had one that did not play and of course that filmmaker came in from germany. Thank God we got another dvd player in there. Tangent now over.
Would it benefit me at all to do the pulldown removal and edit out a 24p version for DVD then add pulldown for the Beta SP version? Also, any help on the setting for the titles is greatly appreciated.