Editing Tabs Disappeared

Chienworks wrote on 9/9/2009, 3:33 PM

I can't imagine what you mean about not having both audio and video. I do that all the time. Almost everything i put on the timeline contains both audio and video. This is an utterly wild guess, but have you scrolled the timeline section up? There may be a scroll bar on the right edge of the screen. If the "thumb" isn't at the top then you're not looking at the top of the timeline. Try dragging that back up.

If you want a fresh start quickly, quit Vegas, then hold down the Ctrl & Shift keys while you start it up again. This will reset everything back to the original install state. It will reset any options and preferences you wanted changed too, so be ready to set those up again.

reygato wrote on 9/9/2009, 5:37 PM

WHat I noticed was the few times I was able to get the DVD Archetect to actually burn a dvd (as in without all the error messages after an hour or so) When I went and played the DVD, there was a video track but no audio.
One film I tried to upload to YouTube had the opposite; audio, but no video images (EXCEPT for two brief jpgs like a slideshow) right int the middle.
I am finding Sony Vegas tends to do less and less each time I try something with it, so I assume that Sony Technology is not past where Super8mm film was in , say, 1970, which worked a lot better than videocams today. At that point, people could make home movies with sound, and with Sony Vegas 2, well, I can't

Thanks though I will try the reset. I had no saved preferences because I found nothing on there that worked anyway so I will try the reset before I delete and reload everything

Chienworks wrote on 9/9/2009, 8:13 PM

What format are your source files? Where do they come from? How are you getting them into your computer? What file types are you rendering to?

When you render for DVD you have to render the audio and video separately. The video render will make an MPEG file without audio. Then you render the audio to an AC3 file.

reygato wrote on 9/11/2009, 3:38 PM

So Basically, you have to render the Video and the Audio Seperately? So what, I have to Burn the Video Part onto a DVD, then The Audio Part onto an Audio CD, then give someone both discs and tell them to play them at the same time, one in their DVD Player and one in their CD Player, and try to match the two up?
I could use a program, like Corel, and get a DVD that has both Sound and Video without having to send two discs out.

As for formats, I have a Sony Handycam (Another Sony Disappointment) but I also have a point and shoot video that costs about $95 and shoots digital avi that is then downloaded directly into the computer.
I then use Simple Movie Maker 2 (About $5 a couple of years ago or free download probably now) That changes the avi into an Mpeg. It also splices the clips together, adds titles, and I CAN add a sound, like an audio track, but the level of mixing is kind of all or nothing. I then burn it onto a DVD which looks decent enough, kind of no-frills but at least it works....

I got Sony Vegas 9.0b platinum Pro Pack for CHristmas last year, Here it is September and all it has been is a headache and a source of frustration and disappointment.
I keep hearing people talking about how great it is, and I keep reading about all the things it will (supposedly) do, all I have found it to do is about nothing, and I am way beyond frustrated with it that I already downloaded a free trial of Corel and I am probably going to go out and buy that now just to have something that works for a change. I have HOURS worht of video footage, both on MiniDiscs from the Handycam , and clips from the point and shoot, I need to get them onto DVDs to share with others, I need to clean them up, add titles, music backgrounds, I need to splice the clips together to tell stories, I need to be able to add stills in along the way as well to get slideshows and things going. SO after 9 months of trying I cannot get Sony Vegas to work, which is why I need to go find something else now that works for a change, probably something WITHOUT the name SONY on it....

ritsmer wrote on 9/12/2009, 1:28 AM

@reygato: it is very difficult to help you because you are not giving much information as to what the circumstances are.
You system specs are totally blank and 2 days ago Chienworks -wanting to help you - asked about which formats etc you use.
You did not answer that - just continued complaining.

Having read this and other of your threads it seems rather clear that you must have downloaded other software that have overwritten the codecs used by Vegas (codecs are programs that are responsible for decoding and encoding the video and audio streams).
Often programs that do not seem to have much to do with editing can install their own codecs resulting in video with no audio and/or audio with no video in Vegas or DVD Architect - and depending on the formats, that you use.

As many programs are made so that they do not use the same codecs for the same file types this can be a big and confusing issue - some programs can handle a ceartain media clip, others not - or only with missing video or audio.

On top of this there are so many formats and sub-formats to keep track of.

Please answer Chienworks's questions - that might help him to figure out what is wrong on your machine - else we continue having a situation like somebody calling the local Chevrolet dealership complaining that the shitty Chevy will not drive any more - but forgetting to tell that he just drove the car into the ditch...

Chienworks wrote on 9/12/2009, 5:13 AM

Rendering separately does not mean burning separately. You are jumping to unwarranted conclusions.*

Render the video to an MPEG2 file without audio.
Render the audio to an AC3 file. Use the exact same file name except for an extension of .ac3 instead of .mpg.

In DVD Architect drag the .mpg file into the workspace. DVD Architect will automatically find the audio in the .ac3 file and combine them together when burning the DVD.

* And it appears to me that you are attempting to manufacture problems that don't exist in order to increase your dislike of this software. Please do not assume problems that you haven't encountered.

Chienworks wrote on 9/12/2009, 5:18 AM

You mention the Handycam but you don't say what type it is. Later on you mention "minidiscs". There is no such thing as "minidiscs" for camcorders. These are an audio-only medium that look like miniature 3.5" floppy discs except about 2.25" square. Presumably you mean the 8cm "mini DVDs".

Yes, these DVD Handycams are a BIG disappointment. I've recommended to many who have purchased them that they return them and get a MiniDV (tape) camcorder instead. However, later versions of Vegas seem to handle the format rather well. Put the mini DVD in your computer's DVD drive and use the "File / Import / DVD Camcorder disc" function to import the video into Vegas. You didn't say if this is what you are doing or not, but using any other method is probably going to cause problems.

OhMyGosh wrote on 9/12/2009, 8:15 AM

'I got Sony Vegas 9.0b platinum Pro Pack for CHristmas last year, Here it is September and all it has been is a headache and a source of frustration and disappointment.'
Gee Reygato, would you like some cheese to go with your whine? I have been working with this program before Sony ever bought it, and I'm still learning. Thinks it's too hard? Try some 'real' programs like Vegas Pro, After Effects, 3D Max, etc. It takes a lifetime to master them, and there is always more to know and learn. I suggest you go back to Movie Maker, Paint, and NotePad, or better yet just have someone else do it for you. As for:
'is there a way to get to the software to appear as it did last time without having to completely delete and reinstall it? '
Hold down the Ctrl and Shift key and then click the icon to open the program. It will give you the option to restore all setting to original. Good luck. Cin

reygato wrote on 9/12/2009, 7:23 PM

The Files that are made with the Point And Shoot Video Camera are AVI files. They go directly from the Point and Shoot Video Device into the computer. An example of this camera can be seen here
http://www.techshout.com/images/point.jpg
The SonyHandycam Does record onto the Mini DVDs Once they are transferred into the computer (A chore, but it can be done) They come out as MPEG Files. The Quality is not noticably different from the cheaper point and shoot device, but the handycam does offer more by way of zoom and such. I also have the data saved on a smallish Disc, it looks like a DVD but is much much smaller

NOW Let me Please add that I am ONLY using original Material, that is footage that I myself have shot. I am not using material taken off the internet, like off YouTUbe or anything like that. So anything I am attempting to use is from one of those two devices. MPEG or AVI

Once I open them in Vegas Software, that is when the fun begins...

As for the Codecs that sounds complicated, I am not sure what I may have downloaded that would change that. I do run a Windows Vista 32 system, l did update to Vegas Platinum B
I double checked and my computer meets or exceeds all requirements for running the program. I ran a diagnostic on the computer and no problems were found (using the help and support HP Program)

If there is any further info, please direct me to specifics and I will try to answer as I seriously need help with this program
THANKS

Chienworks wrote on 9/13/2009, 5:18 AM

Do you hear the audio and see the video while you're editing on the timeline? If yes, then you should be all set to render video to MPEG2 and audio to AC3 to make DVDs.

Would it be possible for you to tell us the brand name and model number of the point & shoot camera you are using?

reygato wrote on 9/13/2009, 5:13 PM

Yes
The Point and Shoot Video Cam is a Pure Digital Technologies Model 225

I have to say I really like it; it holds about 25 minutes of data (It used to hold 30 when it was brand new) It is downloaded directly into the PC. IT does not have a lot of Zoom or any fancy features, but it is small and lightweight.

Now Yes, I can see the video AND Hear the Audio in the timeline when I am editing. I can see the Titles, the changes between scenes (like the fade and the Iris if I use them) I can even see Stills and hear Music that I added (like an MP3 or WAV track) As I am watching.
When it is saved as any file, (I say any becasue I am trying different ones now as they don't seem to work) I end up with maybe a few seconds of film, as in the YouTUbe example (And NO The "render loop only" box was UnChecked)
I have burned dvds that ended up with only video OR Audio or skipped around with a little of both and a lot of blank space; I have had in one instance a 45 Minute video that was 13 seconds long; (I am following the advice of someone and keeping the videos at 1 to 2 minutes for now)
I am finding that when I look at the video in the editing Box, yes, it looks great. But I cannot get that same Film to then go to YouTube, or to Burn on a DVD, no matter what I try
SO I have nothing to show for the work I am doing.

What I can try is shooting the editing box with the point and shoot, then upload it directly to You Tube Quality will not be great, as it will be a video clip of the computer screen, but you can at least see what the video was supposed to look like