Embedded .veg Files Don't Save All

randy-stewart wrote on 3/3/2008, 10:36 PM
Ran into a problem tonight with a big project involving the save media with .veg file function. Normally, when you click the box to save media with file, all media used in the project is saved with the .veg file. Unfortunately, not so when you use embedded .veg files in the project. This being the case, I'll not use embedded .veg files on any project that I might need to archive or take to another machine for editing since I can't depend upon the project having all of the media required. Has anyone else had this problem or knows of a way to get all of the media to save with a project when embedded .veg files are used (sans manual copy and paste)? Thanks in advance for any help.
Randy
P.S. Using Vegas Pro 8.b, XP Pro, dual core machine

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farss wrote on 3/3/2008, 10:51 PM
By embedded I assume you mean "nested".

Given that the nested .veg is a standalone entity and can be modified without the host knowing about it the behaviour sounds logical. Opening the nested projects as a project and saving them should give you what you want.

Bob.
randy-stewart wrote on 3/3/2008, 11:13 PM
Howdy Bob,
Thanks for the tip and yes, nested veggies is what I meant. We figured out that we would have to manually open and save the nested veg files after trying to edit the project on another machine and discovered the missing media. There's over a dozen nested .veg files so it will take some time. Lesson learned. Glad we discovered it now before it got out of the house. Doubt I'll be using nested .veg files much in the future. Will just render out the clip and use that.
Take care and thanks again.
Randy
johnmeyer wrote on 3/4/2008, 12:07 AM
I am pretty sure that several of the commercial scripts will take care of archiving all the media referenced by nested veg files.
Chienworks wrote on 3/4/2008, 3:42 AM
I'd tend to flop that decision around. Use nested .veg files all you want. It's the "save media with file" option that i would avoid. I always put all media related to a project in it's own directory for that project. That way i never have a need to save the media with the .veg file because it's already there. If i want to transfer or back up the project, i just copy that directory and i'm done. So much nicer and simpler than the save media option, especially since it doesn't change/split/rename the media files.
randy-stewart wrote on 3/4/2008, 4:56 AM
Kelly,

Very good advice and will do that in the future. Just need to revise my work flow.

Thanks for everyones inputs.

Randy
JohnnyRoy wrote on 3/4/2008, 6:15 AM
> We figured out that we would have to manually open and save the nested veg files after trying to edit the project on another machine and discovered the missing media.

Hi Randy,

I believe you have Ultimate S3. Just go to the Project tab and use Archive Nested Projects. It will automatically load all your nested projects and archive the media and then redirect the master archive to use the new sub-archives. It even lets you place the nested archives in separate sub-folders so everything stays organized.

~jr
randy-stewart wrote on 3/4/2008, 10:25 AM
WOW! I didn't remember that. That's the ticket. Man, everytime I ask, I learn another feature about Ultimate S that I didn't know. Thanks very much JR! I can still use my nested veggies and archive my project without having to manually bring everything into the project folder...which really disrupts my workflow.
Thanks again all,
Randy
johnmeyer wrote on 3/4/2008, 12:25 PM
That's what I meant in my earlier post when I said that "commercial scripts" could do what you want. Didn't know you had Ultimate S.

As for putting all the media in one folder, there are quite a number of workflows where that doesn't work. A good example is where I want to do several similar projects, re-using the same media. I have 50 still photos and a bunch of clips, but only want to use a few of them in each project, but I don't know which ones until "I get there." Duplicating all 50 in each folder is a pain, and when it includes video, it consumes too much space. Also, I often have a project where I only use about 20% of what I shot, and for various reasons, don't want to archive the b-roll or excess. Being able to archive just what I use (plus some head/tail) is extremely useful.

randy-stewart wrote on 3/4/2008, 4:26 PM
Thanks John. When I read your post, I didn't think about US3 because I hadn't used that capability. Appreciate your advice. Yes, agree about the space issue and how much of a pain it is to stop and collect the media for nested .veg's. No worries now, US3 to the rescue.
Thanks again,
Randy
TeetimeNC wrote on 1/27/2009, 3:30 PM
JR, or others: Does Ultimate S3 rename all the media when it archives it, like Vegas does? I would like to be able to archive my nested veg media without renaming it, and that might be enough to get me to upgrade to S3.

Jerry

Ultimate S3. Just go to the Project tab and use Archive Nested Projects. It will automatically load all your nested projects and archive the media and then redirect the master archive to use the new sub-archives. It even lets you place the nested archives in separate sub-folders so everything stays organized.