Epson 200 and Memorex Printable DVDs Review

cndavis wrote on 6/11/2004, 12:00 AM
About a month ago, I started researching everything and anything concerning inkjet printers and printable DVD+Rs for my home DVDs. I thought I would pass along my results in case anyone else is thinking about throwing out their labels and buying an inkjet printer which can print on CD/DVDs. (Videomaker Magazine recommends not using labels on DVDs because they have been shown to cause problems with the DVDs over time. I know that the use of labels has also been a topic of concern in this forum.)

I looked at several options (one choice being the Casio thermal) and finally decided on the Epson 200 which was very economical (I got mine for $89.99 + free shipping with my teacher discount). This is the same printer as the more expensive Epson 300 minus the slots for memory cards.

Next I had to buy white printable DVD+Rs. I shopped at every site listed on this forum and even wrote a post to this forum about the quality of different DVDs (Pro-Disc in particular). Anyway, I was on the verge of buying the very inexpensive Pro-Disc which ran for 69 cents each, when I realized that I would also have to pay tax and shipping on my purchase (I believe this was through Meritline). For about $5 more, I was able to find 100 Memorex White Printable DVD+Rs (and DVD-Rs, too) at Amazon for $89.99 which included shipping and no tax. That's the best deal I've seen so far on Memorex.

I just printed 65 discs with my Epson and I am quite happy with the results. This is a very large print order for me. I expect to only be printing 5 or 10 at a time in the future. If someone is going to do a lot of printing, this machine would probably not meet your needs as you must carefully insert and remove the disc each time. Anyway, I think the quality of the print is very nice although I am no expert. I would say a bit better than the labels. I used the highest quality settings during printing (Best Photo, Photo Enhance, CD/DVD Premium). Each disc took 3 minutes and 15 seconds to print. I had no problems with ink spills or drips which I had read about in other posts. I also have had no problems with the ink coming off my discs. I mention this because some people had some problems with this. We've had very warm weather lately, and I have definitely had sweaty fingers and nothing has come off yet. (No, I have not splashed water on my discs yet. Maybe later.)

Using the Memorex discs has been great. I have not had a single problem. I plan to buy more before Amazon raises their price.

The program that comes with the Epson printer to design the CD/DVD is actually pretty good. Lots of nice options including arching, shadows, a variety of fonts, etc. I found it much better than the program which comes with the CD Stomper.

A few minor nitpicks I will mention: 1) The machine got "confused" on a couple of occasions -- I had to shut it off two or three times. (Note, it did not ruin any DVDs.) 2) The machine has six ink cartridges. The cheapest I will be able to replace all of them will be for about $85.00 for OEM (I ruined an Epson printer by getting the cheap ink -- I won't do that again). Unfortunately, I could not find these cartridges at Costco (where I often get a good deal on ink). I used just over 1/4 of my ink cartridges printing the 65 DVDs at best quality, so I figure I will get about 200 discs for each set of cartridges. (About 43 cents each.) To be honest, I don't know how this compares to other printers. It seems reasonable to me.

In conclusion, I am thrilled with my new Epson printer and Memorex DVD+Rs. I think the discs look great and now I won't have to worry about labels ruining my DVDs. I hope this post was useful to anyone considering buying these items.

Comments

Jay Gladwell wrote on 6/11/2004, 4:13 AM
I had no problems with ink spills or drips which I had read about in other posts.

That's the nice thing about new printers. I've owned several ink-jet printers (different brands, too) over the years and they've all done an excellent job... when they're new. I've noticed that as they get older and more used the more the problems of spills, drips, and splatters crop up. I guess it just comes with age/use.

Nice post, Cindy, thanks for sharing the information!

J--
TheHappyFriar wrote on 6/11/2004, 4:42 AM
I got the R200 last week & I've already printed about 70-80 discs with it. :) It's great! I bought Ritek 4x disks @ supermediastore.com for $69 (about 77 after shipping, http://www.supermediastore.com/ritek-ridata-4x-dvd-plus-r-white-inkjet-printable.html). Not one coaster yet (I'm using the HP DVD300i 4x burner, tested about the first 20 DVD's, the one random each batch I burn).

I've used up a little over 1/4 of the ink in the carts that came with the printer (I turned the brightness to -1. DVD's look just as good & it uses a LOT less ink).

I also bought some generic ink carts for $35. I've never had problems with generic ink (even expired ink that i've had to long).

I also like the seperate ink carts. Sure, the ink totals around $80, but if I run outta, say, cyan only & have enough of the other colors, I can goto office max & get it for $12 instead of $40 for tri-color carts.

I noticed the thing where the CD/DVD tray doesn't pull in all the time. I gotta shut the printer off to get it to work. I'm in the process of e-mailing Epson tech about it (i'm picky!)
kameronj wrote on 6/11/2004, 4:53 AM
I too picked up the 200. I'm pleased as punch with eht performance.

One thing though, I"m trying to figure out a template to use Photoshop or Illustrator with it. I'm sure i can dink around with it and get it just perfect, but I'd perfer not to waste any discs in the process.

Anyone run across any pre-made templates, yet? Or any templates to use a Credit Card CD with the add-on?
Jimmy_W wrote on 6/11/2004, 5:01 AM
My epson does a great job, very pleased so far.
Only complaint is that it does get a little confused at times when setting up.
Also no problems with the verbatim disc.

jimmyw
dat5150 wrote on 6/11/2004, 7:13 AM
I own the 200 also and am very happy. I use the Fujifilm white discs...good also. I'm still looking for a DVD template I can use in Photoshop..anyone? Best thing...no more labels!!
TheHappyFriar wrote on 6/11/2004, 7:18 AM
Here's what i'd do: open up the Print CD app. Hit the "Print Screen" button. Go into Photoshop & make a new image. Page your screenshot into it. Crop down to the CD size. Then you've got a template!

I'd also recomend opening up the image size settings & increase the res to 150 or 300. Just to be safe. :)
GmElliott wrote on 6/11/2004, 7:42 AM
I just started printing DVDs last night, as a matter of fact, on my R200.

Do not use the blur settings- the settings that fades the image on the inner and/or outter ring. Reason being it damages your image. I printed one with this setting applied and my fine text came out slightly pixilated. It's almost like saving your image in photoshop using a a 4setting for JPG compression! Not good.
Jsnkc wrote on 6/11/2004, 7:45 AM
Here's my Photoshop CD Template.

http://www.jcmediaservices.com/VIP%20CD%20Template.psd
TheHappyFriar wrote on 6/11/2004, 9:47 AM
Actuatly, I use the blur a lot. :) My images never looked bad. I use it so that if the disc is slight off, the image doesn't get cut off. :)
cworld29 wrote on 6/11/2004, 1:18 PM
I am enjoying my r200 as well.

If it does get a little squirly with age you can just buy a brand new one for the same price as a new set of cartriges.

I wonder if there is a spray coating you could aply to the surface to prevent the ink from running when hit with water?

cndavis wrote on 6/11/2004, 1:49 PM
Thanks for all the feedback on the different discs. Glad to hear that there are other good choices.

Jsnkc, thanks for the template. How do you use it? (I have Photoshop Elements.) Have you tried printing from Photoshop or do you transfer your image to another program after you've created it?
cndavis wrote on 6/11/2004, 1:59 PM
VideoCurmudgeon , you're probably right about the ink spill problems once the printer is a bit older. I know my husband had some problems with his ink heads drying on his Epson -- but this was because he would often leave the inactive printer on for weeks at a time. (This is obviously a no-no.) Also, I had a lot of problems with another Epson printer when I started using an off-brand ink. I know some people swear by the cheaper ink, but I think I'd rather not take my chances.

Anybody out there who has had this printer for a longer period of time? Any problems with ink spills? And are you using OEM or an off-brand ink?
Jsnkc wrote on 6/11/2004, 2:14 PM
I use that one mainly with a Signature Pro printer, works great for printing directly out of Photoshop. For my Epson 900 printer I have at home I usually design the label in Photoshop with that template, then save it out as a high quality JPEG and then import it into the CD label program that comes with all the Epson printers that have CD printing capabilities, I think it's called Epson Print CD or something like that.