Error While Preparing Bluray ISO (DVDAS)

RAB78 wrote on 1/12/2014, 3:27 PM

Hi there. Hope you guys can help me.
I'm trying to make a wedding Bluray but during the final stages of preparing the ISO, I keep getting this error:

Status: TSWrapper.dll::CTSWrapper::ProcThreadMain::Start PTS is too small. Minimum DTS = (4987) in 90kHz

I use TSMuxer to make M2TS files from the following elementary streams:
Video: AVC 1080i 25fps Upper Field First
Audio: WAV 48kHz 16bit 1536kbps

I have to swap the audio files with the original WAV files in DVDAS because it says that the audio that TSMuxer produces for the M2TS are not compatible with Bluray. Even though they are standard WAV.

There is one video where I was unable create the M2TS file using TSMuxer.
For some reason, it would mess up the last 5 mins of the 1h53m video. Although TSMuxer said 100% complete.
I was able to mux the elementary stream using VideoReDo TVSuite V4 but this resulted in it having AAC audio which didn't show up in DVDAS.
Swapping the audio for the original WAV solved this.

After I got the error I tried setting all the audio to re-compress but it still happened.

I'm pretty new to DVDAS so I may be doing something completely wrong. However, I have managed to successfully create one before so not sure why I cant now..
I've been making DVDs with DVD Lab Pro for a long time and as there is no Bluray software from those guys, I thought I would give DVDAS a go seeing as i got it free with Vegas MS 12 Platinum.

Anyway, I hope someone has an idea of what's going on. If you need any more info, let me know.

Cheers!

Comments

videoITguy wrote on 1/12/2014, 4:59 PM

Forget the TSMuxer toolkit! Use the proper elementary streams of video and audio prepared by SCS products like VegasPro and of course latest version Vegas Platinum box.

RAB78 wrote on 1/13/2014, 1:52 AM

Unfortunately videoITguy, i've tried it with all elementary streams and i get the same error. I managed to video cap the error occurring so when i get home from work tonight, i will upload it somewhere so you can see it happen for yourself. Thanks.

musicvid10 wrote on 1/13/2014, 11:32 AM

You don't want to mux your streams first!
You do want to use the COMPLIANT templates in Vegas.

RAB78 wrote on 1/13/2014, 2:40 PM

Thanks for the advice musicvid10.
In future projects i will definitely use elementary streams.
As far as the compliant templates go....
I did use a Bluray template but i modified it to give a higher bitrate of 20,000,000bps.
I also changed it from Bluray AVC to AVC. I can't remember why i did that but i'm still a Bluray noob. These settings didn't seem to affect my previous project.

Here is the vid cap i mentioned in a previous post sowing the error occur.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/f6kjcb5r4bklvp9/DVDAS%20Error.mp4

Ok so i've been trying to decipher the error message and looking at it, it seems to me to be referring to the audio. I looked at the audio of all the videos and noticed that they were all 1 frame short of the video. I rendered one of the WAV files again from the original Vegas project and swapped it into DVDAS. It was still the same.
Then i swapped the video file for the M2TS file muxed with TSMuxer and the V/A were the same length.

This is really confusing me now.
So when i use the elementary streams, the video gets an extra frame of black added at the end. But using video from the TSMuxer M2TS file corrects this.

I'm trying again to prepare the ISO having checked that all the V/A is the same. I'll edit this post with the results.

I'm wondering if changing the video settings in Vegas has somehow messed up the videos and that muxing with TSMuxer somehow fixes it because for my previous project i used all M2TS files and i had no problems. I could be talking out of my ass though.

Edit: Ok, so 18mins later and i still get the error.
Do you think it would be worth rendering the videos again with an unaltered Bluray template? Can i still change the bitrate or would 16,000,000bps be fine?
I don't understand why DVDAS gives all the videos a green tick if they are causing problems.

Emulgator wrote on 1/14/2014, 1:47 PM

Previous versions had a fixed default Start PTS of 00:10:00:00.
This worked.
The latest versions of tsMuxeR have a changeable Start PTS setting, but default is 0.

If you just upgraded tsMuxeR you may want to use the PTS start value 524280 in 45kHz ticks there. (gives a readout of 0:00:11.650, is actually 00:00:11.65066666)

This value is widely used, so by Sony Blu-Print 6.
Don't know if it will work though, I never tried to get .m2ts into DVD-A.
Will try soonish...

RAB78 wrote on 1/14/2014, 3:21 PM

Thanks for your input Emulgator.
The version of TSMuxer i was using is 1.10.6.
Didn't know there was a new version so i've just downloaded 2.6.11 and i'm giving that a go.
I didn't really understand what you said but i've entered the readout number you suggested into where it says "Start Mux Time" and the numbers it generates match what you said.for the Start PTS (what does that mean?) number.

I've been told to use elementary streams so i doubt i'll be using TSMuxer unless i have to. I dunno. How do you get your AVC files to match the PTS required by DVDAS? Surly i should be able to just render a project with a Vegas Bluray template and just drop it into DVDAS shouldn't i?

Edit: I rendered all the video and audio from scratch with the unaltered 16Mbps Bluray template and standard WAV. Then i created M2TS files from the newly downloaded TSMuxer using the recommended start PTS and swapped them all into DVDAS and let it prepare the ISO. Still got the error.
Then i tried the new files as elementary streams in DVDAS and let it prepare the ISO. Still got the error.
Tomorrow i'm gonna try and reinstall DVDAS and try it again. If that fails, i'll take the project apart piece by piece untill i find out what is causing it. So sick of this. Sigh.

RAB78 wrote on 1/15/2014, 2:14 PM

Ok, so i managed to figure this out.
Turns out that it was nothing to do with video or audio. It was a previously (thought to be) deleted chapter menu that took up residence underneath the main menu. I had to pull down the bottom pane to see it.

The left pane showed only one chapter menu. The warnings/info window that shows before creating the ISO said about a button that was off the menu but i thought it was talking about something like the safe area. It didn't have a red exclamation mark like other menu breaking problems have. Only a blue exclamation mark. So i took no notice. Had i known it was gonna break the menu, i would have done something about it. It should have been red not blue.
Anyway, i'm not solely innocent. I should have taken the time to actually read the warnings. Sorry to waist everyone's time.
I guess we know what the error message means now. Not exactly the most helpful of error messages. I would never have guessed the problem from that. Ah well. Lol.